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Re: Gender choices for the 2021 census
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 00:46 BST (UK) »
After reading this gender thread  - I've asked myself "do I really want to go on living"?

If I'm still here I shall fill in the gender/sex column with "HAVE A GUESS" written as "HAG"

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Re: Gender choices for the 2021 census
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 03:57 BST (UK) »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7464527/Experts-warn-new-trans-friendly-guidelines-wreck-crucial-plans-Britains-future.html

What will they think in 100 years?

From your link Martin...

"People filling in the national census are to be told officially that they can say their sex is different from the one on their birth certificate.

The new guidance runs the risk of affecting vital data regarding the population the Government needs to plan for the future."


Another question asking if their 'sex' is different from what they were born could be applied.

As for 100 yrs, nobody will think anything as it will be the norm (I think) as all the stigma should have disappeared by then  :-\

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Re: Gender choices for the 2021 census
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 11:59 BST (UK) »
Well I too think the hairstyle shown is really attractive.
Can’t really be considered  effeminate   on a Sumo wrestler .
Tidy and neat it is not new in some Oriental people .
My Min Lwould have been apoplectic given her disgust at my sons’’ long hair,in the seventies ! but I always reminded her that Jesus was a stranger to the barbers!
As for sex, well, they say as you age you remember the past better than the present , and good memories are better left intact, to turn to as and when you need ,so don’t  complicate or dull   them with what could very likely be much inferior.
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Re: Gender choices for the 2021 census
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 12:09 BST (UK) »
This whole thing is getting ridiculous.There's no such thing as a sex change. As to M to F it is quite remarkable what the surgery can do, can't tell the difference with the real thing. However, the transexual is not a female, she is a transexual.

As to future Census returns, if any, best question would be TS, M to F or F to M. That would disclose sex at birth.

Those with GRC's are relatively few in number, nothing for anyone to get hung up about.
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Re: Gender choices for the 2021 census
« Reply #58 on: Saturday 19 October 19 13:51 BST (UK) »
Boy-buns are not a good look.
Jon Snow and Uhtred of Bebbanburg prove you wrong, just to name two.   :)
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Re: Gender choices for the 2021 census
« Reply #59 on: Saturday 19 October 19 14:24 BST (UK) »
Boy-buns are not a good look.
Jon Snow and Uhtred of Bebbanburg prove you wrong, just to name two.   :)

Whoa, that's not proof, that's opinion. 

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Re: Gender choices for the 2021 census
« Reply #60 on: Sunday 05 January 20 11:38 GMT (UK) »
In many quarters Wikipedia is not looked on as reliable either. It does not do Wikipedia any good to make such comments.
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Re: Gender choices for the 2021 census
« Reply #61 on: Sunday 05 January 20 19:10 GMT (UK) »
And now we have PANSEXUAL making an appearance in National Politics.
Can soneone please enlighten this near 80 year old straight male. What the B------ H--- is one of those?
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Re: Gender choices for the 2021 census
« Reply #62 on: Sunday 05 January 20 19:58 GMT (UK) »
And now we have PANSEXUAL making an appearance in National Politics.
Can soneone please enlighten this near 80 year old straight male. What the B------ H--- is one of those?
Well, when a deep fat fryer and a bain marie really love one another ... 

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