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patchett family lancashire
« on: Saturday 14 September 19 20:11 BST (UK) »
Hi, I would be grateful if anyone can help me figure a few things out, it's a little complicated so i'll do my best to explain.

In the 1911 census living in st leonards gate, Lancaster is Delilah Patchett and her two daughters, annie and may. Annie's birth year is stated as 1905/6 but I cannot find any birth registered anywhere around that time for her.

I know that Annie Patchett married William gamble in 1923, they are living in Lancaster in the 1939 register which states she was born in 1905, her sister may Patchett is unmarried and living with them, her birth year is 1909 yet the only birth I can find for a may patchet is 1907, the mothers maiden name is Bates, I have found a Delilah bates born 1870 in Oldham which fits with what is written in the 1911 census.

I am still unable to find a record for delilah's marriage to someone with the surname Patchett, I don't know where her husband is in the 1911 census as it still says she's married not widowed and there is no trace of the 3 children they lost according to the 1911 census, there is also no trace of Delilah Patchett in the 1901 census.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: patchett family lancashire
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 September 19 20:33 BST (UK) »
May Patchett's age on the 1911 is 3 so born c 1908 not 1909 which makes it more likely that the birth registered Dec 1/4 1907 Lancaster is your May Pratchett. Like you I can't see a birth reg for a Ann* Pra*chet*/Bate(s) In fact the only birth reg showing in Lancaster 1892 - 1911 is May's.

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Re: patchett family lancashire
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 September 19 07:53 BST (UK) »
This looks like Delilah in 1871
Peter Street,Oldham
Thomas Bates   Head 24 born Oldham Carder Cotton
Sarah Ann Bates Wife 24 born Oldham Speed Tenter
Delilah Bates   Daughter 9 months born Oldham

Baptism

Delilah Bates
Birth Date:22 Jul 1870
Baptism Date:18 Aug 1870
Baptism Place:St. Peter, Oldham,
Father:Thomas Bates
Mother:Sarah Ann

1881
2 Flora Street, Oldham
Thomas Bates   33
Sarah Bates   31
Deliah Bates   11
Emma Bates   8
Mary Ann Bates   3
Maria Taylor   19
Ralph Masday   17

1891
5 Franklin Street, Oldham
Thomas Bates   45
Sarah A Bates   43
Delitan Bates   20
Emma Bates   17
Mary A Bates   13

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Re: patchett family lancashire
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 September 19 08:31 BST (UK) »
May's birth certificate could be worth getting as it may name her father
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Re: patchett family lancashire
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 September 19 08:44 BST (UK) »
Electoral registers in the 1920's have Delilah her living with a Joseph Patchett
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Re: patchett family lancashire
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 September 19 09:47 BST (UK) »
School admissions 15.04.1912 Skerton County Primary School have
Annie Patchett 2.7.05
May    Patchett  8.12.07   Father of both is Joseph of 98 Main street which ties in with the Joseph Rosie99 found.

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Re: patchett family lancashire
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 September 19 10:41 BST (UK) »
Electoral registers in the 1920's have her living with a Joseph Patchett
School admissions 15.04.1912 Skerton County Primary School have
Annie Patchett 2.7.05
May    Patchett  8.12.07   Father of both is Joseph of 98 Main street which ties in with the Joseph Rosie99 found.

Cathy

Brilliant finds!  :) :) :)

Possible deaths (FreeBMD):
Dec qtr 1923 Lancaster vol 8e p876 Delilah PATCHETT age 53
Sep qtr 1924 Lancaster vol 8e p683 Joseph PATCHETT age 65
(there are other Josephs in Lancashire, but this is the only one in Lancaster from 1920 to 1990)

Philip

ADDED: There are four Josephs born in Lancashire 1850 to 1870 (GRO):
Joseph William PATCHETT Mar qtr 1855 Manchester vol 8d p299 mmn LISTER
Joseph Henry PATCHETT Sep qtr 1860 Burnley vol 8e p217 mmn KNOWLES
Joseph Hague PADGETT Dec qtr 1861 Stockport vol 8a p21 mmn HAGUE
Joseph PUTCHETT Dec qtr 1863 Rochdale vol 8e p72 mmn DEARDEN

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Re: patchett family lancashire
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 September 19 10:47 BST (UK) »
Was just going to post that death for Joseph  :)

Joseph & Delilah were buried in Skerton
Delilah on 1 Nov 1923 abode 98 Main St, Skerton
Joseph on 21 Jul 1924 abode 2 Quernmore Road, Lancaster

They are in the same grave A591
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Re: patchett family lancashire
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 September 19 11:01 BST (UK) »
Was just going to post that death for Joseph  :)

Joseph & Delilah were buried in Skerton
Delilah on 1 Nov 1923 abode 98 Main St, Skerton
Joseph on 21 Jul 1924 abode 2 Quernmore Road, Lancaster

They are in the same grave A591

That is pretty conclusive.  Yay you!

So now we have the name Joseph and an approximate age at death.  Now it's a matter of seeing which of the births (if he was even born in Lancashire!) we can eliminate.

Philip
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