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Re: William Senior's map 1616
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 October 19 18:39 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Sorry no Foulk etc., in the whole of the 1600-28 survey.

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Re: William Senior's map 1616
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 October 19 21:06 BST (UK) »
Thank You Very Kindly, Spendlove, I do appreciate your effort to help me. Ricardus Fouke being in Ashford in the Water in 1381 made him the earliest Fouke in Derbyshire that I found, obviously by 1616 this family had moved on to "greener pastures". As a matter of fact, I have a probable ancestor Thomas Fouke living in Codnor in 1616, the very year of that survey, so what you did for me provides some confirmation that the Foukes had moved around in Derbyshire during the ensuing centuries since that 1381 Poll Tax, and I am grateful for the additional knowledge!

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Re: William Senior's map 1616
« Reply #11 on: Friday 23 February 24 14:13 GMT (UK) »
hi i have access to the senior map 1617 ashford and another ashford and churchdale. unfortunately i can't see any of those names on the maps

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Re: William Senior's map 1616
« Reply #12 on: Monday 20 October 25 22:36 BST (UK) »
Message for Goldie61

If you electronically link to my great grandfather's book, Longstone Records published in 1906 by G. T. Wright, you will see references to the Heywards living in Ashford in 1616 on pages 211 and 212.

The link is:-

https://ia804707.us.archive.org/34/items/longstonerecords00wrig/longstonerecords00wrig.pdf

or try in search –

Longstone Records G T Wright California

I have attached the two pages for you.  Good luck.

Regards


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Re: William Senior's map 1616
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 October 25 22:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks TNP.
It's some time since I was researching in Derbyshire, (this thread is some six years old), so I will have to go back through my notes and see where this fits in, but many thanks for your input.
(The link to the actual book doesn't work - an error message comes up that there's no link to the server, but thanks for the actual images from the book you attached).
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: William Senior's map 1616
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 October 25 22:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Goldie61,

Thanks for your reply

Try this link for Longstone Records, just taken it off the internet -

https://dn790008.ca.archive.org/0/items/longstonerecords00wrig/longstonerecords00wrig.pdf

A Robert Heyward also on page 214.

Good luck

Many thanks

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Re: William Senior's map 1616
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 23 October 25 18:56 BST (UK) »
I have seen what is probably a similar map by William Senior for a manor in south Yorkshire, dated 1615.  At that period most fields were still unenclosed, being farmed in a late version of the open field system.  A tenant's land would be scattered across the township in a large number of narrow strips in various large fields, nominally 1 acre each, but in practice quite variable.  There would also be areas of Common occupying the less productive land, where each would have the right to graze a certain number of animals.  The map I have seen is relatively small, but contains a name and acreage on every strip, meticulously compiled.

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Re: William Senior's map 1616
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 23 October 25 21:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks MollyC

William Senior was a mathematician and surveyor commissioned by William Cavendish at Chatsworth for his lands in his ownership. (William Cavendish became the 1st Earl, not Duke, of Devonshire in 1618). He surveyed from 1600 to 1640 private estates within a dozen English counties totalling over 285000 acres (445 square miles). He produced written surveys, (terriers),  and over 150 maps, the equivalent of a minor Domesday Book for the early 17th century.

Interested to note your comment that the fields shown in strips were largely unenclosed during that period.  Certainly no past evidence of any strip fields today for the village of Great Longstone near Bakewell in Derbyshire.  None apparent on the Longstone Hall Estate Survey of 1770 in Longstone Records.

It's incredible how meticulous William Senior was in recording the acreage, roods and perches of each parcel of land as well as the names of tenants or owners in his terriers.


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Re: William Senior's map 1616
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 23 October 25 23:04 BST (UK) »
I think the open field system was never as extensive in upland areas, because a larger proportion of the land was only suitable for grazing, and also the practicalities of moving about the landscape with ploughs etc.  However, looking at the OS 1st ed. 6-inch map c1875, there are numerous small fields suggesting piecemeal enclosure, probably at an early date; e.g. in Taddington, west of Great Longstone, where there are remnants of ploughing curves preserved in boundaries to the east and north of the village, but Taddington Moor to the west is a later landscape of enclosed common, crossed by a wide enclosure road.

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