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Re: Australian Navy Records
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 September 19 04:48 BST (UK) »
Sorry, but could you please tell me what I need to do to change this or delete the post. I did not mean to offend anybody.
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Re: Australian Navy Records
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 12 September 19 16:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Gaye,

It is against our rules to publish information on folk that are living, date of birth marriage etc, these are often security questions.

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Re: Australian Navy Records
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 12 September 19 18:26 BST (UK) »
Sarah,

The trouble is, those records are no longer confidential, they are freely available for anyone to download from the National Archive of Australia.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Australian Navy Records
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 12 September 19 19:03 BST (UK) »
Sarah,

The trouble is, those records are no longer confidential, they are freely available for anyone to download from the National Archive of Australia.

BUT .... the NAA does not oblige us to publish the identifying names of t he RAN personnel.  RChat threads can be very easily found via google search of key words.  NAA individual files cannot be found that way.   

Using the soda option that the NAA website provides is the option that avoids publishing the identifying names. 

Publishing the info includes putting the names in either the topic heading or the post itself ....

There is a huge difference in the outcome when googling an individual's name....


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Re: Australian Navy Records
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 12 September 19 19:25 BST (UK) »
I quite agree, I was simply pointing out that the records are freely available, unlike those of  our own service personnel.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Australian Navy Records
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 12 September 19 23:43 BST (UK) »
I quite agree, I was simply pointing out that the records are freely available, unlike those of  our own service personnel.

Sorry,  but .... the vast majority of Australian service personnel records are NOT freely available. 

Some of the Royal Australian Navy ones were part of a digital funding program because they were initially on CARD which had been archived properly,  so easy to process.  Some RAAF forms were processed as part of that too. 

Far more Australians served in the Army,  and for those who served in WWII or more recently, there are fees charged and permissions required or confirmation the person of interest is deceased before the digitisation even commences.

Back in the early 2000s  the bulk of one main series of the Australian Imperial Force papers for WWI were digitised, and federal funding of the files that had not already been funded by individual members of the general public, was found.

Current fees for digitisation are about $75 Au,  but the Australian Defence Force can withhold approval. 

The NAA Record Collection of Defence files is extensive,  and not all personnel files are indexed, nor are all indexes available on line.


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Re: Australian Navy Records
« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 September 19 00:50 BST (UK) »
Isn't the digitisation ongoing? Years ago I looked for my grandfather's WW2 naval service records - they had not been digitised. I returned some time later to find that they had been. I did not request this nor did I pay any money.

Whist doing research for friends and more distant family such as a brother-in-law, I have found several of their relatives digitised WW2 army records viewable online. To my knowledge no one paid for the digitisation or for the records to be 'opened'.

I believe there are various fee structures if you wish to obtain physical copies. I have not looked into it enough to know if the digital copies of the service records are exactly the same as the printed records.


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Re: Australian Navy Records
« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 September 19 01:37 BST (UK) »
This is possibly his father’s death:

FENTON. Hector Lumsden - July 14. 1986. at hospital, late of Woy Wov. beloved husband of Edna (deceased), loving father and father-in-law of D.... and L.... G...... and C...., loved grandfather and great-grandfather of their families.

If it is then his son was still living.

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« Reply #17 on: Friday 13 September 19 01:41 BST (UK) »
FENTON. Edna May. - July 10 1985 at hospital late of Woy Woy beloved wife of Hector loving mother and mother-in-law of D.... and L... G...... and C.... loved grandmother and great-grandmother of their families and fond sister of I... E..... M... G.... and L...

FENTON. - The relatives and friends of the late EDNA MAY FENTON, of Woy Woy are invited to attend her funeral service, to be held in the chapel of the Palmdale Crematorium. Palmdale Road. Ounmbah. today (Friday) at 3 pm, PALMDALE FUNERAL SERVICE OURIMBAH 043 62 1203

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams