Missing STEWART family – Redgorton c1850’s

[NormanS]

Hello,

I wonder if anyone would be kind enough to help me please. I am desperately trying to find out what happened to my 3rd Great Grandparents – James Stewart and Catherine Taylor. I have searched the census records on Scotland’s People, Ancestry and Find My Past together with the death records on Scotland’s People but to no avail.

If someone else could also take a look to check I’m not missing anything or give me any ideas on what to try next, it would be very much appreciated.

Here are the basic facts:-

31 March 1799 - Catherine Taylor was born in Moneydie. Parents were John Taylor and Janet Pearson.

27 May 1821 - James Stewart married Catherine Taylor in Moneydie.

1841 Census – James and Catherine are living at Crossgates, Redgorton with 3 of their children.

9 Dec 1841 – Their final child, James Stewart, was born at Crossgates, Redgorton.

23 Feb 1849 – Their daughter Elspeth married Angus McIntosh at Redgorton. Her address was the family home at Crossgates.

9 Apr 1849 – Elspeth’s first child Cathrine was born at Redgorton.

I have been unable to find any other trace of James Stewart senior (date and place of birth unknown which is why I want to find the family on the next census so that I can go further back along James’ family line), Catherine Taylor/Stewart or James Stewart junior. I really need to find them on the 1851 census but I am not having any luck at all. I have managed to ‘trace and track’ some of their other children including my 2nd Great grandfather, William Stewart.

According to William’s marriage certificate in Dec 1857, both his parents were still alive however when William died in Nov 1862, both his parents are recorded as deceased.

Many thanks in anticipation.

[Liviani]

According to William’s marriage certificate in Dec 1857, both his parents were still alive however when William died in Nov 1862, both his parents are recorded as deceased.

Hi NormanS

On this marriage certificate, does it state what James Stewart's occupation is/was?

Also welcome to Rootschat! 

[NormanS]

Hi Liviani,
Thanks for getting back to me.  James Stewart’s occupation was ‘Flesher’.  His son William was also a Flesher who was resident in Perth when he married. 
Regards
NormanSyrf

[Kloumann]

There is a James Stewart, age 50, Catherine, age 54, Isobel age 30, & Janet, age 14 on the 1851 census for Auchtergaven, both James & isobel were listed as born in Redgorton, Catherine as Foulis, Janet as Kinclaven. However, James is down as a retired Slater.

[Liviani]

According to FreeCen there is the following family at High Street, Blairgowrie, Perthshire in 1851

James Stewart, 49, Butcher born Blair Atholl
Catherine Stewart, 39, wife born Blair Atholl

But I get the feeling this isn't the family as there are 7 children living here; Elizabeth, Alexander, William, Margaret, Ann, James and Peter all born Blair Atholl.

Is it possible the occupation on William's marriage certificate says Slater rather than Flesher? Could he have changed occupation, and lastly, could the family/parents have emigrated between 1841 and 1851?

EDIT; though do remember that census info isn't infallible and I've seen wrong info like this before.

[Liviani]

Possible for the slater James Stewart in 1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBHM-J8X

Possible death index on SP for the slater;

STEWART
JAMES
65
ROBERTSON
1863
330/ 16
Auchtergaven

Possible death index on SP for the Butcher in Blairgowrie

STEWART
JAMES
64
KENNEDY
1861
335/ 30
Blairgowrie

[Kloumann]

Interesting!!! The Isabel in 1851 census was born 1823 to Daniel Stewart & Catherine Taylor on Scotlands People in Redgorton but there is no marriage for a Daniel to a Catherine on record. Have viewed the birth record & it is not a transcribe error. James & Catherine were married in Methven.

[Liviani]

Interesting!!! The Isabel in 1851 census was born 1823 to Daniel Stewart & Catherine Taylor on Scotlands People in Redgorton but there is no marriage for a Daniel to a Catherine on record. Have viewed the birth record & it is not a transcribe error. James & Catherine were married in Methven.

Isabel possibly illegitimate? Did the OPR baptism state "natural child" etc?

[Kloumann]

Lawful daughter. I think the 1851 census record is for James S & Catherine Carmichael with their daughter, Janet. Only birth of 1 child that I can find for James S & Cath. T is a James, born 1841 in Redgorton. There are 2 births for Daniel S & Cath. T  Isabel 1823 & James 1825.