Author Topic: Pettigrew Family Crest/Coat of Arms  (Read 3564 times)

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Re: Pettigrew Family Crest/Coat of Arms
« Reply #9 on: Monday 16 September 19 22:22 BST (UK) »
"Of that ilk!" means of that place,  Pettigrew?

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Re: Pettigrew Family Crest/Coat of Arms
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 September 19 08:52 BST (UK) »
"Of that ilk!" means of that place,  Pettigrew?

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Sorry, but no. It refers to the people, not the place. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Of_that_Ilk 

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Re: Pettigrew Family Crest/Coat of Arms
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 September 19 10:08 BST (UK) »
Well Chas, the Scottish National Dictionary gives "Of that Ilk!" as "A person so designated who has the same surname as his property or title". Moncreiffe of that Ilk, (oldest family in Perthshire in the same line, for example,) takes his monicker from the Hill of Moncreiffe, later made into a barony of the same name. The examples quoted in Wiki of Anstruther & MacLachlan of that Ilk, are from the place-names of Anstruther & in the case of MacLachlan his address of Castle Lachlan, Strathlachlan. Blair of Blair is also of territorial origin, (no scarcety of places called Blair!) as indeed are the oldest of Scotland's surnames. The Wiki,  "Of that Ilks!" examples quoted, is largely a list of places.
 Their giving Balfour of Shaws, (a piece of fiction,) is irrelevant RLS well knew that he couldn't use Balfour of that Ilk as that was a place in Fife & the name was taken.

"Pettigrew of that Ilk" implies a place in the Glasgow area so-called. The only one which springs to mind was a department store called Pettigrew's in Sauchiehall Street!  ;D

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Re: Pettigrew Family Crest/Coat of Arms
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 17 September 19 16:20 BST (UK) »
I think, Skoosh, we are arguing on the same side. It certainly started off as a place, but quickly became the synonymous with the people. Since the abolition of feudal tenure it has no link to a place at all. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Of_that_Ilk 

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