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Offline kanskar

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Re: Need help for a marriage
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 September 19 20:25 BST (UK) »
An earlier post has Elizabeths baptism in 1832 with a birth of around 1830.

Freebmd has a Marriage in Newington Dec 1845 Qtr of an Elizabeth Sykes. On the same reference is a Henry Charles Reeves.  Worth a double check?
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Re: Need help for a marriage
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 September 19 21:18 BST (UK) »
1845 marriage - Elizabeth Sykes married Edward Trusty.  She is a minor, father is James, deceased.

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 September 19 21:34 BST (UK) »
address on the marriage for Elizabeth is Red Cross St which is the address on a possible burial for Elizabeth Marshall, transcribed as 31 Dec 1867 but looks like Jan 1868, very faded.

Birth reg Edward Trusty dec qtr 1846 St Saviour vol 4a pg 547 mmn Sykes - could be the 14 year old Edward in 1861.

Not sure that father James was deceased at that time as there's a burial 3 Sep 1848 age 53 address George Yard that seems a match for him.   ::)

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 September 19 21:52 BST (UK) »
also Esther Trusty march qtr 1848 St Saviour mmn Sikes who died 23 March 1850 and was buried 31 March, Long Lane Wesleyan Chapel Bermondsey
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 September 19 16:19 BST (UK) »
Re son Edward aged 14 in 1861

Births Dec qtr 1846  Edward Trusty  St Saviour 4 547  mmn Sykes

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 September 19 17:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you all so much for your time in helping with this. I now think [with lots of Ospreys help] that Elizabeth Sykes married Edward Trusty when she was 15 yrs [so young]  the oldest son Edward in the 1861 census seems to be Edward Trusty's son. So now Im off to find a death for Edward Trusty and a possible marriage between Joseph Marshall and Elizabeth.
Once again thank you all for your input and thank you Osprey for putting me on the right path.
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« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 September 19 17:44 BST (UK) »
the only likely death I could find for an Edward Trusty would prove a problem to a remarriage

Edward Trusty 55 march qtr 1880 St Olave vol 1d pg 206   

There are some workhouse admission & discharge records for him on Ancestry, one in 1877 as Trustee, correct age in Newington workhouse, noted him as insane & married.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 September 19 18:23 BST (UK) »
Could explain why we can’t find a marriage to Joseph Marshall.  Did Joseph die before 1881?

Edward Trusty jnr married Elizabeth King 1865.  Father Edward shown as a fishmonger and not shown as deceased

Edward jnr had a criminal record for larceny
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« Reply #17 on: Friday 06 September 19 18:35 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Joseph Marshall 45 dec qtr 1876 St Olave vol 1d pg 179.
Death reg for Elizabeth that fits burial given earlier age 38 dec qtr 1867 St saviour vol 1d pg 25.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb