Need help for a marriage

[Antoinette 12]

I have tried in vain looking for a marriage between Joseph Marshall bn.1830 in Southwark and Elizabeth Sykes bn.1830 also from Southwark. In the 1861 Census they are living with their children and Elizabeth is listed as his wife.Im beginning to believe they were never married for whatever reason but would just like your help to see if I have missed something.
Thanks in advance

[JJen]

There are these Banns which could be worth looking at as Elizabeth Reeves is described as a widow.

Joseph Marshall
Banns - 22 Jul 1849, St Mary, Newington Southwark
Spouse - Elizabeth Reeves, widow

JJ

[CaroleW]

Did you get Elizabeth's maiden name from one of their children's birth certs?  If a widow remarries, she does so under her previous married name but children born to the marriage will show her true maiden name

[Girl Guide]

This one?

Marriages Sep 1849 
Hickey    John        Newington    4   407    
Leaper    Sarah        Newington    4   407    
>>Marshall    Joseph        Newington    4   407
Paige    Jane        Newington    4   407   
Paines    Edwin        Newington    4   407    
Parker    Isabella        Reigate    4   407    
>>Reeves    Elizabeth        Newington    4   407   
Roberts    Ann        Newington    4   407   
Young    Joseph        Newington    4   407

[JJen]

Just found the marriage cert for the Banns posted. Elizabeth Reeves' father is John Parker 

JJ

[CaroleW]

The 1861 shows Joseph as a costermonger.  The 1849 marriage shows him as a bachelor occ miller father Richard deceased

Elizabeth was a widow father John Parker custom house officer

Neither of Elizabeths surnames tie in with Sykes

[BumbleB]

Is this the 1861 entry:  RG9/314, folio 19 page 34.

If so then birth registrations for Susan and Catherine do give mother's maiden name as Sykes.  Purchase of a birth certificate would perhaps give further information regarding "Sykes".

[osprey]

son Joseph whose birth was registered march qtr 1853 Saint Saviour vol 1d pg 28 mmn Sykes is on the 1871 census with his grandmother Catherine Sykes RG10/595 folio 28 pg 50. 1841 census for Thompsons Buildings HO107/1088/5 folio 12 pg 17 has Elizabeth Sykes aged 11 with James enumerated as 40 and Catherine as 35 and other children. Elizabeth baptised 10 June 1832 dau of James & Catherine, noted as born 1830.

[CaroleW]

Son Edward is 14 in 1861 so born 1847 but I can't find an 1851 entry.  Elizabeth was only 17 in 1847