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Richard James Ludlow
« on: Friday 16 August 19 05:03 BST (UK) »
Good Afternoon All,

I am trying to verify the parents of Richard James Ludlow born 1868 Sydney New South Wales.
He married Lucy Marion Martin in 1904. They had one child. Lucy died from complications during child birth.

There are two births in 1868 for a Richard J Ludlow one registered Sydney with parents of Richard and Elizabeth. The other one registered Glebe (I know that is also Sydney) with parents of Richard W and Elizabeth. Common names, I know, but I want to know which one is correct so I can go back further.

From his death in 1938 I know that he was born 71 years prior, which makes birth year about 1867. He was born in Sydney and moved as a child with his parents to Tenterfield. He was into Gold and Tin mining. In about 1923 he moved with his 2nd wife Margaret and son to Tweed.

That is the extent of my knowledge. Any help finding who his parents were and if he had any brother and sisters would be most helpful.

P.S. I do have a family of 8 children being: Janet R, Helen M, Richard J, Thomas H, William J, Henry A, Elizabeth P & James A but cannot 100% confirm that it is all the same family.
Baxter: Lanarkshire, Slamannan
Jordan: Lanarkshire, Staffordshire
McFarlane: Lanarkshire
Mitchell: Ireland to Scotland, Canada & New Zealand
Farrell: Lanarkshire, Ireland, New York
Fagan: Lanarkshire, Ireland
Hogg: Lanarkshire, Ireland

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Re: Richard James Ludlow
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 August 19 06:27 BST (UK) »
Hello
I have just looked at the bdm nsw site and the death they have in 1938 (ref 9409 Murwillumbah District) has parents Peter James and Lily Ludlow.
There is also an obituary for the above death on trove.nla in the Tweed Daily for 20/4/1938 which mentions born in Sydney, moved to Tenterfield, 1st wife Lucy Martin and 2nd wife Mrs M Marshall.
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Re: Richard James Ludlow
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 August 19 06:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Jackie,

Okey dokey, that is a completely different path again. Back to the drawing board.

Yes the only concrete information I have was from the obituary which I have 100% confirmed is his.

Thank you.
Baxter: Lanarkshire, Slamannan
Jordan: Lanarkshire, Staffordshire
McFarlane: Lanarkshire
Mitchell: Ireland to Scotland, Canada & New Zealand
Farrell: Lanarkshire, Ireland, New York
Fagan: Lanarkshire, Ireland
Hogg: Lanarkshire, Ireland

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Re: Richard James Ludlow
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 August 19 06:50 BST (UK) »
I have looked again at the bdm nsw site for siblings born in 1860-1875 range and no one comes up for Peter James & Lily.
There are a couple for Richard & Elizabeth (Sydney) - Hannette R 1546/1863 and Thomas H 307/1872.
Haven't found any trace of Peter James or Lily Ludlow yet.
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Re: Richard James Ludlow
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 August 19 07:03 BST (UK) »
Re those two 1868  listings at NSWBDM online.

One is for a birth,  and one is for an Early Church Record,  a baptism ....  I suggest these both refer to the one baby.     I suggest an official transcription of the birth will have far more info than the baptism one.

The one with the letter V in the reference no. is the Early Church Record.

Re the names displayed for that death registration ....  please do not expect NSW BDM to have cross checked the accuracy of the informant's knowledge on any NSWBDM death registration.  The info will include names of the children of the deceased and ither valuable family history details.


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Re: Richard James Ludlow
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 August 19 07:10 BST (UK) »
I have just had a look at familysearch and they have Richard James' parents as Richard William Peter James Ludlow and Elizabeth Lily Gray.
More checking required I think.
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Re: Richard James Ludlow
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 August 19 07:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you JM,

I agree with cross reference as Richard's second wife (I am only assuming) may not have known his parents names especially if they were deceased. As far as I know between the two marriages of Richard James, there was only the one child.

Thank you Jackie,

That is possibly the Janet R born 1863, died 1863 and Thomas H born 1872, died 1873 that I have found.

Yes cannot find a Peter James & Lily either
Baxter: Lanarkshire, Slamannan
Jordan: Lanarkshire, Staffordshire
McFarlane: Lanarkshire
Mitchell: Ireland to Scotland, Canada & New Zealand
Farrell: Lanarkshire, Ireland, New York
Fagan: Lanarkshire, Ireland
Hogg: Lanarkshire, Ireland

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Re: Richard James Ludlow
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 August 19 07:14 BST (UK) »
I have just had a look at familysearch and they have Richard James' parents as Richard William Peter James Ludlow and Elizabeth Lily Gray.
More checking required I think.
Jackie

That is the family I have found with the 8 children I mentioned in my original post, I just don't know if that is the family I am looking for, but now Peter James and Lily may be making sense, not quite sure.
Baxter: Lanarkshire, Slamannan
Jordan: Lanarkshire, Staffordshire
McFarlane: Lanarkshire
Mitchell: Ireland to Scotland, Canada & New Zealand
Farrell: Lanarkshire, Ireland, New York
Fagan: Lanarkshire, Ireland
Hogg: Lanarkshire, Ireland

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Re: Richard James Ludlow
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 August 19 07:15 BST (UK) »
The marriage certificate would name his parents

BDM NSW marriage
3744/1904 LUDLOW      Richard J     marr.  MARTIN  Lucy M  @ Drake 


Also -
7693/1898   LUDLOW    Ellen M        marr.      WRIGHT  Alfred     @ Drake
9077/1902   LUDLOW    Elizabeth P  marr.       JONES    Henry J   @ Drake

death
1082/1905   LUDLOW  Lucy   parents   John T / Emma J   @ Drake


birth
2978/1905   LUDLOW  William J  parents  Richard J / Lucy M   @  Drake