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Re: Robert dodd snr. A bad man?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 15 August 19 19:28 BST (UK) »
A marriage to consider.
St. Mary the Virgin, Leigh, Lancashire, 20th May 1816
John ATHERSMITH, Leigh Parish, nailer
Mary HARTLEY (X), widow, Leigh Parish
Married by licence
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/index.html
There are also ARROWSMITH entries in registers of St. Mary the Virgin, Leigh. Occupations of the Arrowsmith men were weaver and farmer. There was a John & Mary Ann ARROWSMITH.
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Re: Robert dodd snr. A bad man?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 August 19 19:45 BST (UK) »
Could this have been John ATHERSMITH/ARROWSMITH?
Burial 10th April 1847 St. Mary, Lancaster
John HARROWSMITH, age 53; abode County Asylum
Notes: Interned (should that be interred?) at Asylum
(Lancashire Online Parish Clerks)
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Re: Robert dodd snr. A bad man?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 August 19 00:01 BST (UK) »
FreeBMD;
Deaths Sep 1840
Park    Thomas Ulverstone  25 110
GRO has him as age 31***

Baptisms Ulverston
JOHN Park 1838 (no date given)
JAMES Park 12 Apr 1840 (birth 12 April 1840)
Parents THOMAS/MARGARET
Possible for ANNE Park 30 Nov 1834 Egton-with-Newland + MARY Park same place 11 Aug 1833
to THOMAS/MARGARET
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From Lancashire Online Parish Clerks:
St. Mary, Ulverston, burial 28thSept. 1840.  Thomas Park, age 33, abode Ulverston.

Details on baptisms: Abode for all except John was Bowstead (or Boustead) Gates/Yeats. Father's occupation was swiller.
John baptised 4th March 1838, abode Ulverston; father's occupation swiller & basket-maker.
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Re: Robert dodd snr. A bad man?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 August 19 06:55 BST (UK) »


Lancashire Courts of Quarter Sessions.
S - Quarter Sessions: The Court in Session
P - Petitions
3415 - Lancaster: Midsummer 1852
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Item
Reference number
QSP/3415/12
Title
Certificate of expenses of several named witnesses in case against Robert Dodd and Thomas Athersmith
Date
26 May 1852


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Re: Robert dodd snr. A bad man?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 August 19 07:19 BST (UK) »

There's also a newspaper report from 1846
 Ulverston.—May 15. Before W. Gale, Esq. Robert Dodd, and Margaret his wife, Mary Athersmith (mother to the wife) /b], Ellen M'Ginnes, wife of James M'Ginnes, and Ann M'Leod, wife of James M'Leod, tinkers, were brought ...
Published: Saturday 23 May 1846  Newspaper: Westmorland Gazette  I don't subscribe, so can't see the full extract.

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Re: Robert dodd snr. A bad man?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 August 19 09:45 BST (UK) »
The article states that they were all of Ratten Row,Ulverston.

There are quite a few references to Robert Dodd in the Kendal Mercury and Westmorland Gazette, mainly regarding felonies. In addition the Kendal Mercury has this :

12 July 1845
Marriages

At the Registrar's Office,Ulverston,on the 10th instant, ...Mr Robert Dodd to Mrs Margaret Park...of Ulverston.

William
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Robert dodd snr. A bad man?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 August 19 13:43 BST (UK) »
1861 Census
Margaret Dodd   47
Ann Millers   27
Margaret Millers   3
Jacob Millers   5
William Miller   11/12


Marriage;
Ann Park
24 Apr 1854, Ulverston
Father:   Thomas Park
Spouse:   Jacob Miller


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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Robert dodd snr. A bad man?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 August 19 15:28 BST (UK) »

There's also a newspaper report from 1846
 Ulverston.—May 15. Before W. Gale, Esq. Robert Dodd, and Margaret his wife, Mary Athersmith (mother to the wife) /b], Ellen M'Ginnes, wife of James M'Ginnes, and Ann M'Leod, wife of James M'Leod, tinkers, were brought ...
Published: Saturday 23 May 1846  Newspaper: Westmorland Gazette  I don't subscribe, so can't see the full extract.
The charge was assault on Elizabeth Graham. The case was heard before William Gale Esquire.  Also reported in the Lancaster Gazette on same date.
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Re: Robert dodd snr. A bad man?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 August 19 15:47 BST (UK) »


Lancashire Courts of Quarter Sessions.
S - Quarter Sessions: The Court in Session
P - Petitions
3415 - Lancaster: Midsummer 1852
Repository
Lancashire Archives
Level
Item
Reference number
QSP/3415/12
Title
Certificate of expenses of several named witnesses in case against Robert Dodd and Thomas Athersmith
Date
26 May 1852

Charged with stealing a tarpaulin and a pair of boots.
" … the notorious and old offenders against the laws, Thomas Athersmith and Robert Dodd …" (Lancaster Gazette 29th May 1852)
"...  charged with having stolen at Egton-with-Newland, a tarpaulin, property of John Graham. Robert Dodd, 29 and Thomas Athersmith, 23, charged with having stolen at Dalton, a pair of boots, also with having stolen …" (Lancaster Gazette 26th June 1852)
They were acquitted of stealing tarpaulin but found guilty of stealing boots. Sentenced to 18 months imprisonment. (Westmorland Gazette 3rd July 1852; Kendal Mercury 3rd July 1852; Cumberland Pacquet & Whitehaven Advertiser 6th July 1852)
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