Mr and Mrs Watson

[Rosinish]

Helen his daughter married in Glasgow 1863 to a Robert Cowan

Can you please state exactly what's written in the parents column?

Annie

[whifflet]

Hi   It's not too clear for her maiden name. But it could be Dutton. Her father is Joseph Watson 

[Forfarian]

Hi   It's not too clear for her maiden name. But it could be Dutton. Her father is Joseph Watson 

But does it say (Deceased) after either or both names?

[whifflet]

Hi. Both father's alive. Mothers deceased

[Forfarian]

That confirms other information, i.e. that Jane had died and Joseph was still alive.

I see that Joseph is described in the 1871 census as a widower, aged 62, born Aberdeen Old Machar.

There is no death of a Margaret Watson, other surname Carruthers, in the deaths index at SP. So did Margaret leave Joseph and go back to Ireland with their son? Did she die in Ireland between 1861 and 1871?

There are six Joseph Watsons born 1808 plus or minus five years in the deaths index on SP:
Age 61, died 1873, Edinburgh Canongate (YoB 1811/1812)
Age 67, died 1876, Dumfries (DoB 1808/1809)
Age 77, died 1882, Paisley
Age 79, died 1882, Dunfermline
Age 78, died 1884, St Martins
Age 77, died 1888, Auchinleck

There are five Joseph Watsons born 1808 plus or minus five years in the 1881 census:
Age 78, Dunfermline, born Renfrewshire
Age 75, Paisley, born Campsie, Stirlingshire
Age 74, St Martins, born Perthshire
Age 71, Lochlee, born Errol
Age 69, Ayr, born Ayrshire

I've coloured the ones who match, leaving just two possibles for your Joseph. The one who died in Edinburgh is a few years too young. Have you looked at the death certificate of the one who died in Dumfries?

[whifflet]

Thankyou Forfarian. What a pal.  I will find him.  I will look at the Dumfries records.  So glad I came on to Rootschat again. Lots of dead ends everywhere else I looked. 🙋

[GDW]

Joseph Watson died on 3 November 1880 at North British Buildings, Coatbridge (at home of his daughter Ellen and husband Robert Cowan who registered the death). I have been unable to find a death record for his first wife Jane Dustan who I pressure must have died between 1851 (living in Glasgow) and Joseph remarrying in Stranraer in 1857. There is a death recorded for a Jane Dustan in Old Machar, Aberdeen on 16/5/1854 which I've not been able to determine if related (Joseph was born in Old Machar).

[Rosinish]

Is this the deaths...

WATSON JOSEPH - 63 - 1880 - 652/2 431 Old Monkland (Middle District)

DUSTAN JANE - 73 - 16/05/1854 - 168/B 210 584 Old Machar

Have you viewed the image for Jane, age seems out but?


Annie

[GDW]

WATSON JOSEPH - 63 - 1880 - 652/2 431 Old Monkland (Middle District) is the correct death for Joseph Watson.

I agree that Jane (DUSTAN JANE - 73 - 16/05/1854 - 168/B 210 584 Old Machar) is too old. Thanks. I had been looking at (DUSTAN JANE -16/05/1854 - 168/B 200 86 Old Machar), which doesn't give an age but which I think relates to the same death.

Joseph Watson's death certificate states he was the widower of his second wife Margaret Carruthers which is incorrect. It is strange and unusual but she was 30 years younger than Joseph when they married in Stranraer in 1857 (she was the sister of his son John Dustan Watson's wife Eliza Carruthers). She remarried twice 1) Henry Trentum in Glasgow 1/1/1869, with who she had 3 children and 2) James Monteith in Stranraer 29/9/1885 before her death in Kirkcaldy in 1903 (CARRUTHERS MARGARET - 61 - 442/41 Kirkcaldy and Abbotshall).