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Offline M_ONeill

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Re: Ancestors married twice?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 08:02 BST (UK) »
Well, this mystery just threw another turn...

I’ve been chatting with the admin of a local history group and they dropped a bit of knowledge I didn’t know previously; namely that Coagh parish was only created in 1865. Prior to that it had been the parish of Donaghenry.

They looked in the registers for Donaghenry and found a catholic baptismal record for a John Bell, son of James Bell and Eliza Lamb (which they believe is a variant of Lamont) in 1862. Now I’ve heard of couples getting married because a baby’s on the way, but I’ve never heard of a couple getting married four years after their first child! So I’m sceptical... but on the other hand there is circumstantial evidence in support of the idea.

Firstly, if this John is indeed my ancestor James and Eliza’s son it would tie together a few other threads in my research, namely the other catholic Bell families of the area. There is a John Bell who marries a Mary School (I believe an alternate spelling of Scullion) in the chapel of Mullinahoe in 1885. John’s father is listed as a James Bell and the couple go on to live in Mullawotragh. I had wondered about a connection to my tree, but hadn’t thought of John as a possible son of James and Eliza as he was too old!

John and Mary’s children share a number of names with James’ family, including one son named as Walter in the civil births in 1904 but listed as Albert everywhere else. As my 2x great grandfather’s father was called Walter, I’m wondering if Walter Albert was named for his great grandfather. There is one remaining catholic Bell family to account for, a James Bell son of James who marries a Mary Teaney in Drumullan in 1890, but it’s looking possible that my ancestor James Bell is indeed the root ancestor for all catholic Bell families in Coagh!

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Re: Ancestors married twice?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 12:55 BST (UK) »
Just found a birth record for a James Bell son of James Bell and Eliza Lammon in Lissan, Tyrone in 1864.

This James and the John mentioned in the last post end up being the heads of the remaining two catholic Bell families of Coagh around the turn of the century. These were two families that I had yet to tie into the tree. I am now fairly confident in saying that James Bell the elder and Eliza Lamont are the root ancestors of every catholic Bell family in this area. Every other Bell family I can find are Presbyterian, with a handful of Church of Ireland thrown in.

Given the above, along with the fact that James and Eliza were apparently in a committed relationship at least four years before their wedding(s), I'm wondering whether there was initially some impediment to their marriage. Family or church disapproval, perhaps? The two marriages were then perhaps a compromise to keep families of two differing religious affiliations happy?

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Re: Ancestors married twice?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 30 August 19 21:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

Sorry not done any research for a while but, i wondered if this link may just help you?  All I know is I found many double marriages, Christenings even deaths and think this is why you have found two marriages.

www.answers.com/Q/How_did_Henry_VIII_change_the_church_in_England

I know there maybe other reason's as I don't honestly understand everything but, this just came to mind reading your post.

People could not be married, buried Christened Catholic under the new rules so, they use to do one C of E and then go to another town and do it Catholic because that was their belief.

Hope it helps you, if not for this one but, maybe for others
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