Florenda Lee Merrigan

[Jool]

Hi Tara and Michelle (welcome Michelle)

I think things may be getting a little muddled with Myrtle Ethel Sanders and her parents - who you believe to be William Sanders and Ethel McClure of California.

In your first post you state

The birth certificate we are now in possession of for this mystery child states the following: Mother is:  Myrtle Ethel Sanders age 14 (b. Mar 18 1907 Douglas AZ) residence Miami AZ.

The birth certificate does not state a date of birth for Myrtle Ethel Sanders, just age 14, birth place Douglas Arizona, residence Miami Arizona.

The date of birth you state, Mar 18 1907 is the birth date for Myrtle EVA (not Ethel) Sanders, the daughter of William Sanders and Ethel McClure of California, who you believe is your Myrtle.

Myrtle ETHEL Sanders, the mother of Florenda Lee Merrigan, I believe is the one born Myrtle Ethel ADAMS on 1 Nov 1906 in Douglas Arizona, daughter of J O Adams and Mattie Dunn who was adopted in 1915 by Albert Sanders (see my posts 36, 37 & 38 yesterday). 

See also Sandra's post no. 25:
Myrtle Sanson 1 November 1906 passed away March 1996 - Last Residence 85502 Globe, Gila, Arizona.  SSN issued Arizona (Before 1951)

I am not trying to pick holes in your research, I just don't want you to go off on the wrong track.

Any thoughts welcome 

Jool

[Michelle Denise]

Hi Jool.  Thanks for the welcome.  I am going to dig a little bit more into Myrtle's parents following your information. Thank you so much.  What I really have been working on, like I said before, is if Florenda ever had children.  She has been a bit harder to follow because of the name changes ie Florenda Lee Merrigan to Flora Lee Deane, LaPlant, Winters and King.   

[Jool]

Hi Michelle, I understand what you say about Thomas being found not guilty based on the testimony of children, not entirely reliable.  I also appreciate that your focus is on Florenda and her potential children to try to establish the facts.

Regarding Myrtle, you may want to look at this record on Findmypast.

Myrtle Eva Sanders
Age 17
Birth year 1907
Father Wm Sanders
Mother Ethel Mcclure
Marriage 18 Aug 1924
San Benito, California, United States
Spouse Herbert A Erickson
Spouse age 21
Spouse birth year 1903

There is also a death of Myrtle Eva Cuthbert (Myrtle Eva Sanders) on Ancestry
Birth Date 18 Mar 1907
Birth Place California
Death Date 12 Nov 1995
Death Place Madera
Mother's Maiden Name McClure
Father's Surname Sanders

I haven't found what happened to husband Herbert Erickson or when she married Mr. Cuthbert

Good luck and let us know how you get on 

[Tara-Leigh]

Myrtle Sanson 1 November 1906 passed away March 1996 - Last Residence 85502 Globe, Gila, Arizona.  SSN issued Arizona (Before 1951)

Sandra

Sandra
Do you have a link to this information? I couldn't find it...
This is the link I have and as you can see the name was adjusted but it states Eva not Ethel as a middle name.
These two Myrtles are cross referencing everywhere and I'm having trouble confirming which one she actually is, as Jool pointed out, and is correct.

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=5180&h=1653234&ssrc=pt&tid=40717990&pid=422000909475&usePUB=true

Thanks so much
Tara

[Tara-Leigh]

Hi Michelle, I understand what you say about Thomas being found not guilty based on the testimony of children, not entirely reliable.  I also appreciate that your focus is on Florenda and her potential children to try to establish the facts.

Regarding Myrtle, you may want to look at this record on Findmypast.

Myrtle Eva Sanders
Age 17
Birth year 1907
Father Wm Sanders
Mother Ethel Mcclure
Marriage 18 Aug 1924
San Benito, California, United States
Spouse Herbert A Erickson
Spouse age 21
Spouse birth year 1903

There is also a death of Myrtle Eva Cuthbert (Myrtle Eva Sanders) on Ancestry
Birth Date 18 Mar 1907
Birth Place California
Death Date 12 Nov 1995
Death Place Madera
Mother's Maiden Name McClure
Father's Surname Sanders

I haven't found what happened to husband Herbert Erickson or when she married Mr. Cuthbert

Good luck and let us know how you get on 

Jool
These were the two documents I had which because of the middle name said was not the Myrtle we were looking for. So I'm confused...I had Myrtle's mother as McClure and the only information I haven't been able to find was if the Myrtle I'm looking for ever married a Cuthbert...that was the only piece of this puzzle I didn't have yet.

I greatly appreciate the points you've made as I hate going in circles or as you put it going of track only to find out where I started out was the correct point.  Before computers I did a lot of that...lol!!!

Before I delete incorrect information or correct information can we clarify or help confirm for me the Dunn/Adams connection or should I keep the McClure/Cuthbert connection? I'm starting to get a bit confused...

Thanks for the clarification...
Tara

[Tara-Leigh]

Good Evening Jool ~
First I want to thank you for post #36!!! I followed those two articles to a "T"...and hit pay dirt

I have updated my tree and records regarding Myrtle Ethel Sanders b. Adams and now see how it all flows. There's still a gap of 4 years (1922 to 1926 ) most if not all her records show she never left the state of AZ.

Here's what we have now:

b. November 1 1906 Arizona
d. March 1996 Globe Arizona

Biological Parents were: J O Adams and Mary Jane Mattie Dunn

Mattie married Albert Sanders in 1914 and 3 months later died. In 1915 Sanders legally adopted Myrtle.
In 1921 Myrtle gives birth to Florenda. In 1922 Albert Sanders dies.

Between 1922 and 1926 I don't see where she lived.  However, the town where all these people lived was strictly a mining town and everyone worked for the mine in some fashion.  This is the same town where my great grandfather  Thomas Merrigan worked as a crane operator. It's pretty safe to say everyone probably knew everyone.  Now where Myrtle ended up living during those 4 years and with whom...well that I don't know...she was somewhere and with a young infant. I'm guessing that's where and when the Deane's come into the picture.

Thank you again Jool...very helpful information.

Now I know my cousin is still trying to find additional family to Florenda but it doesn't appear to be so....we'll see...you never know.

Many thanks
Tara

[Michelle Denise]

Hi everyone.  First I want to say thank you for your help and guidance.  I have just been in contact with Louise 'Buster' Mounce's great granddaughter (Beverly's daughter) in Arizona.  She confirmed that Florenda had a child of her own named Cheree.  Evidently Cheree researched and tracked Myrtle down in AZ and took Florenda to visit.  I am not sure of the year that that took place or Cheree's last name at that time.  I am still working diligently and will know more soon I hope.  I do know that Florenda and Cheree were of great surprise to all when they showed up in Globe AZ lol