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Re: Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 00:14 BST (UK) »
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Re: Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 01:52 BST (UK) »
Possibly no more information to be found here but the [1911] divorce file for Violet & Frank Turner is available:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=16697152

Held @ Auckland Archives. PatsyAnn you could start another topic along the lines of "Auckland Archives Look up" if someone does not jump in and offer first......

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Re: Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 02:30 BST (UK) »
Hi.

I can look it up on my next visit.

Alan.
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Re: Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 02:58 BST (UK) »

This time my query is linked, in that the above named was the son of a Violet Harvie Sweet who in 1910/1911 was being divorced by her then husband Frank Turner citing Sidney Rowe as co-respondent. Subsequently Violet and Sydney were said ( in the divorce papers) to be cohabiting in Auckland under the name of Harvey/Harvey. Violet gave birth to a son Winton Herbert Ryan in 1911

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 ???   Assumed from this statement that PatsyAnn already in possession of Divorce papers.   ???

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Re: Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton
« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 03:11 BST (UK) »
Yes, you are probably correct Lu. Will have to wait for PatsyAnn [UK] to come back on-line, so hold everything Alan.  :)


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CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
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Re: Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 03:21 BST (UK) »
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Re: Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 03:23 BST (UK) »
Had not even looked up to see if also available to view on line. Those big 600 page deed register books keep me going for hours, so no problem to use the four other concurrent call ups, for extraneous papers, and a quick look see.

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Re: Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton
« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 08:52 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this has been covered but both of these births also come up under "TURNER" on NZ BDM.......

1911/13162   Ryan   Winton Herbert   Violet Sweet   NR   -   

1914/21908   Ryan   Edwin William   Violet Sweet   Sydney

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Edwin William Ryan born 1914 Auckland (linked to Sidney Rowe?)and brother Winton
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 09:55 BST (UK) »
Hi again All and good morning
Thanks as ever for suggestions. Re the Turner divorce file I have not seen the file in the records but have read the various newspapers reports relating to it kindly provided by Minnie. Inaccurate message sending by me, will be more careful :-[
In the newspapers it says Violet and Syd were living in Auckland as Harvey.
Re the registration of the births as Turner under that other  BMD reference which I was unaware of I am very surprised as by 1912 Frank had remarried as per one of my earlier posts. That would throw the cat among the pigeons!
Alan, if you are able to look at the divorce next time that would be really helpful. Whatever light it might throw on the paternity of Winton, born some months after the 1911 divorce would be good. If you aren't able I will then do what Minnie suggests and request a look up.
You are all very kind
Best wishes
Patsy