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Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Friday 09 August 19 01:10 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find the date of Owen Robert Colverd's marriage to Marjorie (nee George; then Judd; then Simmonds) in about 1946, probably in New South Wales. He was born in 1892, she in 1905. can anyone help, please?

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Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 August 19 01:26 BST (UK) »
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Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 August 19 03:52 BST (UK) »
NSW 3/06/1946 marriage Marjorie Emma is listed under JUDD and WALLACE
8935/1946 Owen COLVERD and Marjorie Emma JUDD; Sydney
8935/1946 Owen COLVERD and Marjorie Emma WALLACE; Sydney

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Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 August 19 13:32 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much to both of you who have responded to my query. The web link will be very useful, and now I have not only the wedding date but the possibility that my Dad's first wife was even more of serial marrier than I realised! 'Wallace' hadn't appeared yet in any of the records I had accessed so far.
Marjorie Judd, divorcee, married my father Edwin Charles Simmonds in 1931 in the UK, but deserted him after only seven months. He always said she 'ran off to be an actress' and used the stage name 'Marjorie (or Margery?) D'Or (rather than Daw.) I can't find anything about this. Now I need to chase the Wallace connection!
Dad had to wait seven years of course before he could apply for a divorce; this came through in January 1941 and he and his second Marjorie (nee Gowan), my mother, married on January 22nd 1941. I arrived two years later. It amuses me that Ancestry refers to Marjorie No.1 as my stepmother when I wasn't even a twinkle in Dad's eye.


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Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 August 19 14:09 BST (UK) »
Still can't find marjorie Emma marrying a Wallace. Maybe she took it as a 'stage name' and that's why both appear on her 1946 marriage certificate?
BTW - is 3/06/1946 June 3rd or March 6th???

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Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 August 19 15:41 BST (UK) »
Still can't find marjorie Emma marrying a Wallace. Maybe she took it as a 'stage name' and that's why both appear on her 1946 marriage certificate?
BTW - is 3/06/1946 June 3rd or March 6th???

Marriage date 3rd June 1946

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Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 August 19 15:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you! Most grateful.

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Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 August 19 12:15 BST (UK) »
 ;D The name of the paper “Truth” is funny, as it appears that Marjorie Emma JUDD was still legally married to Raymond Athelstane JUDD when she married your father Edwin Charles Simmonds in 1931 in the UK. And if the JUDD divorce papers were served on her at Rangoon, she possibly married WALLACE there?

Truth 24July1932 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/169139325
...That was years ago, and he hasn't seen her since. As a matter of fact, Marjorie fled to foreign parts, for the papers were served on her at RANGOON

SMH 21July1932 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16906041
Raymond Athelstane Judd v Marjorie Emma Judd (formerly George) Issue conjugal rights Marriage May 2, 1924 at the district registrar’s office Hurstville. His Honor made an order directing respondent to return to the husband within 30 days

SMH 23July1932 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16921248
UNDEFENDED SUIT. Raymond Athelstane Judd v Marjorie Emma Judd (formerly George). Marriage, May 2, 1924, at the district registrar's office, Hurstville. Decree nisi, returnable in six months, on the ground of desertion.

SMH 26July1933 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28027279
Decrees absolute were pronounced in the suits of....
Raymond Athelstane Judd v Marjorie Emma Judd

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/354445
Divorce papers Marjorie Emma Judd Raymond Athelstane Judd #1032/1930
*** If you are interested in reading the divorce file (often contains a marriage certificate), you could put a request for Ros who very generously does lookups for Rootschatters, when she visits the Archives. https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=703011.msg6770360;boardseen#new

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Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 August 19 13:00 BST (UK) »
This is astonishing! I had Dad and Marjorie's 'marriage' year wrong  - it was 1933 not 1931. But they married on June 1st 1933 - apparently well before Marjorie's Decree Nisi at the end of July!
Thank you so much for taking this trouble - I will certainly follow up on your suggestion to ask Ros if I can take a look at the divorce papers, as well as reading through the links you have so generously supplied.
Her mother also had a colourful history, first marrying a Harold George in 1904, but at some point he is gone from the scene and she gets wed to a Cuthbert Alvin Fisher apparently twice with one marriage to him recorded in Bombay in 1919, and a second recorded, to the same husband, in Calcutta in December 1930. When Dad visited her (and first met Marjorie) in Sydney in 1924 Marjorie's mother was definitely Addie Leigh Fisher (born Adeline Leigh Muckleston in Newcastle NSW.)
I shall press on with my researches! Thank you again.