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Place name in France or Belgium
« on: Thursday 08 August 19 20:56 BST (UK) »
I wonder if anyone can help with figuring out what place name this is? It's in a diary my great uncle kept during WW1. There are very few entries but he did write a list of the places he went to when he first arrived in France. The word I am struggling to figure out is the one which begins with a D.

He has previously been at Bailleul, Steenwerck, Dunkirk then Nieuport But I can't think what this word is. Wherever it is, when he left on 11th July he was wounded the same day and went to hospital.

He was with the 3rd Battalion, The Royal Scots at this time.

Would be grateful for any ideas.
East Lothian/Midlothian
Cowe, Cameron, Storie/Storey, Powell,
McCaskell, Kane/Cain, Howden, Duncan

For OH: East Lothian Ayrshire
Baird, Kyle, Reilly, Routledge
Mackie,Wallace, Wood, Dickson, Burrell, Brown, Darling

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Re: Place name in France or Belgium
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 August 19 21:13 BST (UK) »
Looks like Develd?
But not finding any place name to match.
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Re: Place name in France or Belgium
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 August 19 21:26 BST (UK) »
I'm thinking he meant Deauville, but didn't know how to spell it.  (I'm assuming the next entry should be "went up the Seine"  but written phonetically).

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Re: Place name in France or Belgium
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 August 19 22:38 BST (UK) »
I thought the last entry said “ went up the Line”. Is it possible to trace his movements via the regimental war diary?


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Re: Place name in France or Belgium
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 August 19 08:20 BST (UK) »
On 10th July 1917 the Battle of Nieuport was fought in this area and I see from his notes that your great uncle went 'up the line' the following day. 

https://westernfront1917.wordpress.com/2017/07/10/nieuport-the-forgotten-battle/

Not sure if that could have had anything to do with where he was between 7th and 10th July.

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Re: Place name in France or Belgium
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 August 19 10:44 BST (UK) »
Possibly misheard Ghyvelde
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Re: Place name in France or Belgium
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 August 19 11:47 BST (UK) »
Possibly misheard Ghyvelde

That would make sense - he arrived there on the 7th then left on 10th and arrived there again on 10th before going up the line on 11th.  The surprise German attack on Neuport on the 10th July could very likely have led to the troops being recalled to 'Develd' so the situation could be assessed.
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
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Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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Re: Place name in France or Belgium
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 August 19 19:35 BST (UK) »
Thank you all so much! I forgot that I had the full War Diary from the National Archives, having previously only printed out a small part of it. Ghyvelde is indeed mentioned on exactly those dates. I presume it may have been pronounced Gee - veld with a hard G so could easily have been misheard.

I will now go back through the diaries and match them up with what he wrote on his list.

I notice in the Battalion diaries the location is given as 'in the line' and talks about Nose Support, Nose Lane and Nasal Trench which I guess were the names given to the trenches. So when he said he went 'up the line', he must have been in the trenches.
East Lothian/Midlothian
Cowe, Cameron, Storie/Storey, Powell,
McCaskell, Kane/Cain, Howden, Duncan

For OH: East Lothian Ayrshire
Baird, Kyle, Reilly, Routledge
Mackie,Wallace, Wood, Dickson, Burrell, Brown, Darling

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Re: Place name in France or Belgium
« Reply #8 on: Friday 09 August 19 19:50 BST (UK) »
Geluveld is near Ypres on the Menen Road .
There is also Geluwe near Wervik also on the Menen Road.
Just thought one of them may be the place you are looking for.
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