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Re: How did you get into researching?
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 00:39 BST (UK) »
"if the concepts of DNA were taught in school"

I'm sure they are.  Good grief, I took high school biology in 1963 and even then the concepts of DNA [as they were understood at that time] were taught in my public high school.

Agree - even in Wales we knew something of the principles via Mendel's peas! I did Biology O level in 1961 and A level in 1963.

PS - and a Kinship paper in my finals in 1967  ;D
Ah, the peas! I'm having flashbacks to high school science.
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Re: How did you get into researching?
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 04:11 BST (UK) »
Reply #15...too much to quote/edit...

I agree with FH being a great way of learning many aspects.

I know more about Geography/History/Sociology etc. through my interest in Genealogy than I ever learned at school.

PharmaT...Children could be given the choice of researching a Family Member, Popstar/Filmstar, Inventor etc. i.e. it would not affect any personal issues.

I found History/Geography vey boring & uninteresting as I couldn't relate to either the people or the places (much I didn't believe) whereas when doing my Family Tree, I was able to associate names/places/occupations etc. i.e. it's far easier to learn by association as I have found although there are of course the people who had/have an interest in History/Geography by default  ;)

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Re: How did you get into researching?
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 08:19 BST (UK) »
"Family History is so all encompassing one could almost do away with the current curriculum and just concentrate on Family History for the children to have a rounded eduction."

Sure, if you're prepared to write off math, physics, chemistry, geology, biology and whatnot.

If you can write off such things and research your family history I would be amazed, all of the above are required to pursue the hobby.

For example geology affects the stones we commemorate our ancestors with, (why that sandstone has eroded but the slate or gritsone next to it has survived). It also may have affected who they met and married (geography/geology).
Even physics and chemistry determine our research, think about it and you may understand. Why do certain records still exist whilst others have perished (physics and chemistry)?

Family History may/does require a more demanding range of subjects than the current secondary eduction curriculum.
It seems some people do not understand the true depth of life and the world around us family history taps.
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Re: How did you get into researching?
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 10:48 BST (UK) »
I wanted to find out if some family stories were true, like Grandfather was one of seventeen children.  No there were fourteen children born according to 1911 census. An older cousin could also confirm. Baptism and birth regs were further proof.
 Another to prove/disprove was that a grandaunt's husband had been violently killed.  No he had died from an illness.
 Still have a few more to work on ....


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« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 16:34 BST (UK) »
I have a ww1  medal  that was issued to my grandad. ( I don't  know what happened to the  other  medals  he  had)   . we were always  told that gt grandma  had 17 children,  all of whom except for 5, died, including one she was having. when she died.  This would  have meant  one a  year  from getting married to dying! Turns  out that she actually had  7 children, 5 survived  into adulthood!
Then I discovered  I wasn't quite the Lancashire  lad  I thought I was!

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Re: How did you get into researching?
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 16:41 BST (UK) »
"Even physics and chemistry determine our research, think about it and you may understand. Why do certain records still exist whilst others have perished (physics and chemistry)?  It seems some people do not understand the true depth of life and the world around us family history taps."

ROFL.
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Re: How did you get into researching?
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 18:02 BST (UK) »
"Even physics and chemistry determine our research, think about it and you may understand. Why do certain records still exist whilst others have perished (physics and chemistry)?  It seems some people do not understand the true depth of life and the world around us family history taps."

ROFL.

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Re: How did you get into researching?
« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 19:04 BST (UK) »
Reply #15...too much to quote/edit...

I agree with FH being a great way of learning many aspects.

I know more about Geography/History/Sociology etc. through my interest in Genealogy than I ever learned at school.

PharmaT...Children could be given the choice of researching a Family Member, Popstar/Filmstar, Inventor etc. i.e. it would not affect any personal issues.

I found History/Geography vey boring & uninteresting as I couldn't relate to either the people or the places (much I didn't believe) whereas when doing my Family Tree, I was able to associate names/places/occupations etc. i.e. it's far easier to learn by association as I have found although there are of course the people who had/have an interest in History/Geography by default  ;)

Annie

To avoid singling children out and avoid accidental damage eg my daughter would want to research her family but if she contacted her grandfather that would put her in danger.  She is still too young to fully understand why it would be dangerous.  I think the best compromise would be getting all the children to chose someone famous or renowned to research.  It also does not cover the expense of research.  My kids would be OK as I can give them piles of documents that I have saved up but what about others who are only starting out?

I very much understand the depth of life and the world around us and how much of that can be explored as part of family history research but I am also aware of the depth and variety in all the different subjects.  Family history is wonderful (wouldn't have it as a hobby otherwise), you can learn a lot about a lot of things but in no way should it be the entire curriculum. Maybe a term project.  Whilst family history can bring things alive for students by allowing them to relate to their own family, focusing education solely on this holds the risk of narrowing education to only what that individuals family has experienced.  Remember some people will descend from a long line that has settled in a small area limiting the places studied by them. Our ancestors may have shaped us but their experience should not constrain us.

The current curriculum is rather broad, in Scotland at least as I cannot comment on elsewhere as I have insufficient experience of their curricula.  My older daughter is only 13 but so far her education has included:  how voting systems operate (the mechanics and laws), laws surrounding refugees and wrote an in depth analysis of the Rohingya Crisis, UN Convention on human rights, Chinese one child policy, CPC, debate on death penalty, tectonic plates, natural disasters (inc hurricanes, earthquakes, eruptions), sea levels, erosion, cell structure and differentiation, DNA structure, chi square analysis of probability of inheriting aa trait, DNA extraction techniques, PCR (not in depth yet), inherited illnesses and mutations (in trisomies and translocations), Scottish wars of independence, holocaust, assassination of JFK, periodic table, a 10K word project on the structure of the universe and solar system and "is there life elsewhere" which included studying measurement and analysis techniques, chemical reactions and how to represent as formulae, algebra, trigonometry, probability, statistics (eg sample size selection), a wide range of literature and poetry from Shakespeare to present day, anatomy and physiology (in dissection), cookery, food hygiene, insight into all religions.  This is not a comprehensive list, she has covered so much more ad still has 4 more years at school.
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Re: How did you get into researching?
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 21:21 BST (UK) »
I agree that family history research is very educational, and good if you can to involve children.

Whilst I'm conscious of the difficulties that may arise in certain families, depending on circumstances, what is great - and what got me started on investigating myself - is for parents/carers/relatives of any and every kind, to tell stories and jokes and anecdotes about their own experiences.

My mum and dad always told us lots of stories about the war

eg

my dad was in the ARP (Air Raid Precautions) and my mum used to go and see him when he was posted to Eastbourne - she lived in London - and because she forgot her identity card, every time she saw a policeman she crossed the road to avoid being asked to show it.

my dad was cycling off to work when he heard a bomb fall behind him so he turned round and cycled back as quickly as he could and found a bomb had dropped very close by, and the shock wave had left my grandma in the kitchen with an empty saucepan and porridge all over the ceiling.
But they were otherwise unhurt.

and when my mum was pregnant with my brother, she was just sweeping the floor by the bed when a bomb dropped and the wardrobe fell over, but luckily landed on the bed over the top of her.

Nothing is better than a few family stories. 





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