Author Topic: JAmes and Mary Woods, Killinchy County Down,  (Read 2633 times)

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Re: JAmes and Mary Woods, Killinchy County Down,
« Reply #9 on: Friday 02 August 19 09:47 BST (UK) »
1841 census James son of a family in Grey Abbey but that seems too far away from Killinchy. Griffiths lists Samuel,  renting land -but no house - and Robert Watson house only, Lord Dufferin.
 Found another pair who married twice -could it be because the Presbyterian churches had split  at the time?
So grateful for your tips. Maria

Churches splitting shouldn’t lead to a marriage being recorded in two church registers. It should only appear in the church where the ceremony took place.  In the Church of Scotland (a Presbyterian church), prior to statutory marriage registration, what you do find is that where a couple came from different parishes, the banns were read in both parishes and it’s the reading of the banns that got recorded in the parish register rather than the marriage itself. That system made it look as though the couple had married twice. However the Presbyterian church in Ireland didn’t normally use banns, so that’s unlikely to be the explanation here I think.

Remember that only a few fragments of the 1841 census survive, mostly as a result of extracts taken for pension applications. So chances are that the Greyabbey person is another family.

Where someone is in Griffiths with land only, they were either lodging with someone else (and so not listed in their own right) or they lived in a different townland, usually nearby. House only, in a rural area usually indicates the person was an agricultural labourer.

Robert Watson remains listed in Raffrey in the Valuation Revision records until 1883 when the house is noted as vacant.
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Re: JAmes and Mary Woods, Killinchy County Down,
« Reply #10 on: Friday 02 August 19 10:10 BST (UK) »
 Your explanation makes sense.  It was obvious that James Woods knew how to look after stock, plough, drive a team of horses etc. He started off as a drayman, carting shingle for roads and stone from a quarry for building the more substantial buildings. He was able to buy land at 2p an acre and in five years was breaking in his own farm with the help of his older sons. The move to the colony was a good one - he lost it all during a depression and drink became a problem -but his many children, 12 sons,(Francis 1860 missed out earlier) two daughters, mostly stayed there farming and did well -it was  a great Irish community that all helped each other, socialised together.
Thank you for your interest
Maria

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Re: JAmes and Mary Woods, Killinchy County Down,
« Reply #11 on: Friday 06 September 19 11:24 BST (UK) »
Maria
I had a look at the microfiche for Killinchy Prebyterian in PRONI yesterday.  I couldn't see a marriage for James Woods to Mary Watson certainly not on 1 April 1841.  I did see two baptisms in Killinchy Presbyterian for children of James Woods and Mary Watson of Raffrey- for Samuel Woods born 14 May 1846 and baptised 22 May 1846 and for Robert Woods born 19 January 1849 baptised 4 February 1849. 

The Reffrey Presby marriage records at PRONI only started from 1845

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Re: JAmes and Mary Woods, Killinchy County Down,
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 07 September 19 00:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Flloyd_JW. perhaps  they may have moved seeking work ? between Raffrey and Killinchy and Elizabeth. b.1844, Jam John 1854 Matthew, 1856,1849, Hugh,1852, were christened in Killinchy. Esther b.1858 just before the left for NZ arrived here aged 3 months and was christened in Raffery 1st March 1858.You have filled in some gaps for me so I am grateful - so hard to get all the facts after so many years especially as I live so far away.
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Re: JAmes and Mary Woods, Killinchy County Down,
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 10 October 20 16:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Maria,
I'm a descendant of James Woods and Mary Watson, also seeking more info about them.
They are my great-great grandparents. My connection is through the male Woods line: James-Andrew-Henry-Neville-me.

I think I've perhaps located the names of James' parents (John and Ann) and sister (Elizabeth), but the evidence isn't yet compelling. What I have found is these LDS records at  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRQK-C91 and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRQV-XSZ
It's the right month and year for James birth, but Aghalee is 30 miles from Raffrey/Killinchy where James and Mary got married.

Most of what I know or suspect is summarised here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Woods-2613

If I find more, it will get posted on the Wikitree profile (and here if I remember!)

Cheers
Ross