John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

[MonicaL]

From the Wills & Testament database on Scotlands People, there is this entry:

Elizabeth Snell Scott
3/6/1919
or King, Rathmore, Lenzie, d. 16/05/1918 at Skelmorlie, testate.
Glasgow Sheriff Court Wills
SC36/51/183

Second document (Inventory) indexed with ref: SC36/48/298

Monica

Location for Elizabeth matches with John Scott's death details in the newspaper obit. So she looks to have predeceased him.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Also from the BNA site (as showing on the index):

At Skelmorlie, on the 16th mst.,' Elizabeth Smell King. ,beloved wife of Colonel John Scott of Auchinlea. Shotts, and Rathmore, Lenzie

Saturday 25 May 1918 in the Hamilton Advertiser

Monica

[MonicaL]

From the Glasgow Herald, John Scott's death - https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19320704&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

[MonicaL]

Memento-Mori shows Elizabeth and daughter Charlotte's burial place at Auld Isle Cemetery and Burial Ground in Kirkintilloch Dunbartonshire. The fact that they are listed indicates that there remains a gravestone on the plot(s).

www.memento-mori.co.uk/3.pdf

Elizabeth and daughter Charlotte and a granddaughter

Elizabeth Snell Scott (King) 1918
Charlotte King Scott 1966
Elizabeth King Scott 1974

There is a John Scott showing there for 1932, but no age still showing on the gravestone likely.

Monica

Now that we have been able to confirm that John died in 1932, he must likely be the John we found referenced above?

memento-mori is your main source for further details. Find a Grave have only got 35% of the 173 memorials at this cemetery photographed www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2400540/kirkintilloch-auld-aisle-cemetery

Monica

[Lodger]

Green House (I'm guessing this is "The Green") is shown on this map.
The area is now very built-up and all the Green buildings have gone. This map dates from 1897.

The road is Castlehill Road and the area is Gowkthrapple.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/82893099

[Lionel-W]

Lionel, did you confirm that the death for Elizabeth that we found much earlier was the correct one?

Monica

Hi!

As stated last year, I went through everything anybody sent me and documented it on an Excel sheet. This included anything you found and has been continuously updated with censuses, marriages, births, baptisims etc. As regards the wife of John Scott I have the following:

John Scott: 1875 Married (22.06.1875) to Elizabeth Snell King (Scott), (b. 1852 in Dalziel (parents Thomas King / Charlotte Snell, married 08.09.1839) - died 16.05.1918 in Skelmorlie, Ayrshire, buried Kirkintilloch, East Dunbartonshire, Scotland - Sister: Mary Ann King (Whamond) married William Whamond in Dalziel, Lanarkshire in 1866.)

[Lionel-W]

From the Glasgow Herald, John Scott's death - https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19320704&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

Monica - Fantastic, thank you!

You've not only found out where and when he died, we now have the name of the son-in-law - R. W. Smith - which has always been missing.

This again ties up with the sisters "Betty Smith" and "Nora Meadows", 1968 in South Africa, daughters of my grandmother's sister "Charlotte Elizabeth Snell King Smith (Scott) (b. 1878)." who died 1966, buried Kirkintilloch, East Dunbartonshire, Scotland.

I presume "Nora Meadows (Smith)" died in S.A and "Betty" returned to Scotland, dying on 08.11.1974 and also buried in Kirkintilloch.

Lionel

[Lionel-W]

Green House (I'm guessing this is "The Green") is shown on this map.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/82893099

Hi Lodger,

Thanks! Looking at the map up close, one can see the long tree-lined drive leading to this enormous house. This goes with the wedding: "... and when the bridal pair and wedding party returned to the home of the bride's parents they were preceded up the drive by Highland pipers playing lively tunes. Subsequently, a reception was held at the Green, and was attended by many guests". Considering that they received "230 handsome presents" and a special train from Glasgow had been arranged, there must have been around 500 people, to inlude "the locals", present!

Lionel

[Lodger]

Extracted from the 1893 Wishaw Directory.
No sign of any Scotts.