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Re: John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
« Reply #45 on: Friday 19 July 19 10:53 BST (UK) »
That 1891 census looks likely, Rosie. 1901 entry has Thomas and Charlotte back in the household:

Monica

Hi, I'm not too sure if this is 1891 or 1901 and which family this is, Monica. Thomas H. should be Thomas K. Scott and I don't see a Charlotte in your list. If it's "my" John Scott, then he was a merchant for Wines and Spirits and not a Quarrier. And he's missing here. Any suggestions?

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Re: John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
« Reply #46 on: Friday 19 July 19 10:55 BST (UK) »
From the Wills & Testament database on Scotlands People, there is this entry:

Elizabeth Snell Scott
3/6/1919
or King, Rathmore, Lenzie, d. 16/05/1918 at Skelmorlie, testate.

Monica

All has been noted. Thanks.
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Re: John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
« Reply #47 on: Friday 19 July 19 10:58 BST (UK) »

"This might be a possibility on the 1891 census Hamilton Road Maryfield Dalziel"


Thanks, interesting, has been noted.
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Re: John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
« Reply #48 on: Friday 19 July 19 11:20 BST (UK) »
Memento-Mori shows Elizabeth and daughter Charlotte's burial place at Auld Isle Cemetery and Burial Ground in Kirkintilloch Dunbartonshire.
Monica

We're almost getting into modern times. Pity there is no information as to the gravestones or what condition ther're in. How do you know that John Scott is part of the "family"?
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Re: John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
« Reply #49 on: Friday 19 July 19 11:36 BST (UK) »
Mmm...think John Scott may have predeceased Elizabeth. ... Confirmation was granted to her daughter Charlotte Elizabeth Snell Scott or Smith residing at Ingleholm, South Beach, Troon

Monica

I missed out on the last post, but here again - where does the name "Smith" come in, I don't understand the connection. What I'm certain of, is that we had two relatives who lived in Johannesburg, S.A. They were always referred to as "Jack's aunts" (though probably cousins as he was born in 1906). I think they were named "Betty Smith" and "Nora Meadows", although I'm not too sure. I visited them in S.A. in 1968 and presume they were both about 70 then. Maybe there's a connection here.


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Re: John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
« Reply #50 on: Friday 19 July 19 11:56 BST (UK) »
Part of Dalziel civil parish was in the postal town of Wishaw but most of it was in the postal town of Motherwell. In 1925 the two burghs, Motherwell & Wishaw, merged to become the burgh of Motherwell and Wishaw. According to the Scotlandspeople free index, John Stevenson Bell was born in the civil parish of Cambusnethan (so most likely Wishaw) in 1906.


I have my father's birth certificate and it is definitely "Wishaw".
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Re: John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
« Reply #51 on: Friday 19 July 19 11:59 BST (UK) »
Marriage also on Scotlands people
William Ewart G Bell
Mary Pennycook Scott
1904 Cambusnethan

Rosie

I didn't know where as to now. Thanks.
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Re: John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
« Reply #52 on: Friday 19 July 19 12:08 BST (UK) »
Lionel I see you caught up with your Grannie at last  ;) www.findagrave.com - Australian Cemetery Index
Mary Penequick Bell

Rosie

Unforunately her grave could look better ... but in Germany they just dig up all your remains with a mechanical digger after 25 years and that's the end of your "eternal resting place".

I shall be "buried" 200 yards off the beach and near the lighthouse of the isle of "Ailsa Craig" (Girvan, Ayrshire). Bumping along the seabed keeps one fit!
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Re: John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
« Reply #53 on: Friday 19 July 19 12:11 BST (UK) »
Mary Pennycuik Whapole Scott

Is there are naming pattern here


Apparently, so I've read, it was also common in some parts of Scotland for the wife to retain her maiden name after marrriage.
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