John Scott, born 1851 in Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

[Lionel-W]

You need to go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk for all the original records. Your Scotts' and Kings' births, as you would expect, are all in the indexes ...

Thanks, Forfarien, I've noted everything and will chase up on this. Lionel

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If you do a google search for 9 Glencairn Avenue Wishaw, you will find Glencairn Lodge still standing and inhabited today. That part of Dalziel parish was in the postal town of Wishaw. This confuses a lot of people!

Hi Lodger,

I've had a look at this on Google Earth and I trust that you're right - but how did 3 adults, 9 children under 7 and 3 maids (if living in) fit into this tiny house?

Lionel

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This is possibly John's birth details:

John Scott b. 1 Dec 1850 New Monkland, Lanark,
Parents Robert Scott and Mary Pennycuik

John's marriage or death cert should include his parents' details to let you confirm their details.

Monica

Hi Monica,

This is certainly the connection I'm looking for, especially as a "Mary Pennycuik" is included - but how comes that the 1881 census shows his date and place of birth as being 1851 and Daziel, Lanark? However, the census also shows his sister Mary was born in 1856, 5 years later, in New Monkland, Lanark. Strange ...

Lionel

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Possible marriage for Thomas King Scott

Death for Thomas King Scott
16 September 1939 age 59
Victoria British Columbia

Rosie

Hi Rosie,

I've noted all of this, but it will open a whole new chapter which I will have to follow up on. Thanks!

Lionel

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Probate for Elizabeth Snell King Scott died 16 May 1918 ...

Rosie

Hi, as before I shall be opening a new file for all this.

Lionel

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Three extracts from the burial records of Cambusnethan cemetery, Wishaw.

Thanks Lodger, all has been noted. As soon as I get round to adding this onto the family tree in Geni it will become more transparent.

Lionel

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1881 census from Ancestry.

200 Main Street Wishaw.

SCOTT Robert, head, aged 56 years, hotel keeper, born Bellshill Lanarkshire.
SCOTT Mary P. Wife, aged 55,  hotel keepers assistant, born New Monkland Lanarkshire.
GILCHRIST Agnes, daughter, aged 32, born New Monkland.

Hi,

More information, has been noted. But what has happend to the husband of Agnes Scott (Gilchrist)?

Lionel

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Three more burials from Cambusnethan cemetery.

I've added this information to the previous 3 you posted.

By the way, I see you are looking for a "Torrence in Hamilton" - probably no connection, but my father's best friend before and after WW2 was a "Bert Gillon", whose wife was a "Betty (Elizabeth?) Torrence" from Kilmarnock. Her mother was "lent" to me as a grandmother, as i didn't have one (or so I was told, anyway).

[Lionel-W]

This might be a possibility on the 1891 census Hamilton Road Maryfield Dalziel

Rosie

Thanks, Rosie - all has been noted.

Lionel