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Offline Roobarb

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Re: White Street Topsham
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 14 January 20 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Oh Alison I do envy you living in Topsham! My paternal ancestors lived there, I've visited the town a couple of times and absolutely loved it. The first time I went there I felt an affinity with the place, as if it was home. My ancestors didn't live in White Street, but not far from there, I don't know if it was a dodgy area!

Re White Street, if you look at the National Archives catalogue the two oldest records they have listed referring to the street are insurance records, one dating back to 1788 and the other to 1790. Both records are at the London Metropolitan Archives. Let's see if this link works!

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Bell, Salter, Street - Devon, Middlesbrough.
Lickess- North Yorkshire, Middlesbrough.
Etherington - North Yorks and Durham.
Barker- North Yorks
Crooks- Durham
Forster- North Yorks/Durham
Newsam, Pattison, Proud - North Yorks.
Timothy, Griffiths, Jones - South Wales

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Re: White Street Topsham
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 09:02 GMT (UK) »
The link is great, thank you. I’m amassing any information that I can so that I can help the resident researcher. She has collected a lot of oral history which is amazing but a lot of it definitely confirms the chequered reputation of the street through history. It makes it brilliant to research but probably wasn’t so good to live in.
I feel very lucky to live here, it’s beautiful and very friendly.
Thanks again for the link
Alison

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Re: White Street Topsham
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 08:14 BST (UK) »
Hi. This period of isolation has given me the chance to look again at a mystery that I had to put on the back burner for a while.

I live in White Street in Topsham and am researching the street which is right in the middle of the town with the bottom nearly at the quay. White Street used to have a bad reputation being so close to the docks and was largely lived in by the families of the fishermen and mariners.

At the bottom of the street next to the Quay master's house there is a wiggle in the already tiny road that means a lot of cars and larger vehicles can't get through. It is possible that the 'wiggle' was where two of the houses joined over the road to form an arch or gateway a long time ago. There is a building called Abbey Hall/Building which held dances, a basic library for the residents and then became the White Ensign Club. Next to it are three cottages built in 1894 called Abbey Buildings.

With all of the information available I have still failed to find any reference to any real Abbey or why the buildings were given this name, I can't find any reference to Topsham having an Abbey. The lovely Abbey Hall/Building is also a mystery and i am trying to find out who built it, when and why.

Isolation has given me the time to look into this but of course not the ability to access the archives so I was wondering if anyone can shed any light on this.

Any help would be great, it would be good to use this enforced time at home to crack this one.

Thanks

Alison



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Re: White Street Topsham
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 09:22 BST (UK) »
Previous thread.

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Re: White Street Topsham
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 09:38 BST (UK) »
Hmmm not sure which thread to reply to - I will ask mods to merge the two.

Have a look at British Newspaper Archive [also available on Findmypast] which has several newspaper articles - which may mention owners' /occupiers' names - such as :


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Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: White Street Topsham
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 09:40 BST (UK) »
I don't know the area at all but I can see that St James' Priory was just 3 miles away and that site was subsequently occupied by a house called "The Old Abbey". Maybe that's where the abbey references come from.

Here's a map link to the "kink" https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=50.68170&lon=-3.46482&layers=168&right=BingHyb
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Re: White Street Topsham
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 21 April 20 11:37 BST (UK) »
Fantastic, both the map and the lead, I'm off to look into St James Priory.

Thanks
Alison