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17th Lancers
« on: Friday 05 July 19 05:29 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me where the 17th Lancers went after 1841?  In 1841 they were at Source Citation
Parish: Govan; ED: Glasgow Cavalry Barracks; Page: 17; Line: 1110; Year: 1841

My ggg grandmother Arabella Purcell was there listed as 17th Lancers but she must have been there with her family as my ggg grandfather William Purcell was also listed there as 17th Lancers.

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Re: 17th Lancers
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 July 19 08:22 BST (UK) »
In 1841, after 3 years stay in Ireland, the 17th moved to Scotland.
Coming down to Leeds in 1842 it received a new colonel in the person of Prince George of Cambridge,  Under his command the regiment was employed in aid of the civil power to suppress serious riots in the manufacturing districts in August 1842.
The following year HQ and three troops were stationed in Birmingham.
They then moved to Ireland to maintain order during the abortive insurrection headed by Smith O'Brien. (1848?)
They then escorted QueenVictoria on her first entry to the City of Dublin.
They returned to England in 1850, finally seeing active service in Crimea (1854-1856).

Taken from "A History of the 17th Lancers (Duke of Cambridge's Own)" on Google books.
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Re: 17th Lancers
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 July 19 08:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that.  So they were in Glasgow Scotland in 1841 so does that mean they should show up on the 1851 English Census?

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Re: 17th Lancers
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 July 19 09:35 BST (UK) »
The regiment were in Ireland (Newbridge) at the start of 1851, leaving there mid to late April for Woolwich so were still in Ireland on 30/31 March when the census was taken.  He doesn't show up on the 1851 Army Worldwide index.  Fragments only remain of the 1851 census in Ireland.

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Re: 17th Lancers
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 July 19 09:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks MaxD

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Re: 17th Lancers
« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 July 19 10:12 BST (UK) »
Sorry I've written my query wrong!

William Carroll born 1821 17th Lancers
Arabella Purcell born 1816 17th Lancers

1841 Cavalry Barracks, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland

I am thinking that they are the children of soldiers or am I totally confused!?

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Re: 17th Lancers
« Reply #6 on: Friday 05 July 19 10:13 BST (UK) »
Were the 17th Lancers called anything else?

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Re: 17th Lancers
« Reply #7 on: Friday 05 July 19 10:24 BST (UK) »
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William Carroll born 1821 17th Lancers
Arabella Purcell born 1816 17th Lancers

1841 Cavalry Barracks, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland

I am thinking that they are the children of soldiers or am I totally confused!?

William Carroll is listed as a private soldier. As I said on one of your other threads , the listing for Arabella Purcell looks like married quarters and my guess would be that she is the wife of either Bernard or William Purcell, both privates in 17th Lancers in Govan at that time. At 25+ she is no child.

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Re: 17th Lancers
« Reply #8 on: Friday 05 July 19 10:30 BST (UK) »
What is confusing me is that on my gg grandmother's death certificate - Isabella Kieley nee Carroll her parents are listed as William Carroll and Arabella Purcell.
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