John Armstrong Kilbegs Co Antrim

[tempogold]

Hello
I would like to find any information on the family of John Armstrong a Farmer in Kilbegs. Information taken from his daughters marriage certificate. Mary Jane Armstrong who married  on 14/11/1853 at First Antrim Presbyterian ( Milrow) Church a Robert William McKinley.

Any information on the Armstrong family would be appreciated.
Many thanks

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Seeking Armstrong and McKinlay/ McKinley in Kilbegs townland in Co Antrim civil parish the geography is
Kilbegs townland location is a north easterly townland adjoining  Antrim townland
Kilbegs village is about a mile to the west of Mill town
Shanes Castle townland runs from Lough Neagh in a westerly direction, until it crosses into Milltown part of Kilbegs
Milltown has postcode BT41 4NW
Milltown includes where the McKinlay family lived in 1862 see below
Kilbegs Townland is where the Armstrongs lived
Dunsilly is the townland on the east side of Kilbegs townland and has the east end of Milltown road coming to a junction in it with the A26 Ballymena Rd               

going through the census substitutes for the area
1796 Flax growers in Ireland
Antrim civil parish none of the names

1823-1837 Tithes Applotment Books
based upon the index work of the Irish Genealogy Hub’s
listing for each parish in Northern Ireland,
The relevant original books are in the
Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast
they are one name and potential land for tax purposes
Kilbegs. Antrim civil parish
Armstrong,       Townland: Antrim Gardens (Scotch Dr. North) Year: 1833
Armstrong, John   Townland: Dunselly Year: 1833
Armstrong, Wm.   Townland: Dunselly Year: 1833

1862  1863 Griffiths valuation three sources
1. https://www.failteromhat.com for quick index.   
2. http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ for detail and map ref .. 
3. https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/valuation-revision-books since 1862 very useful for FH
Kilbegs. Antrim civil parish
Armstrong, John   L: Dunsilly [more modern spelling]
Armstrong, John   L: T: Antrim -Bow Lane
Armstrong, William: Ballycraigy
McKinlay, Robert   L: Kilbegs map ref 7a  has house [just above average, valued @£2pa ] office included land 3 roods.   You normally can look up the each homestead and boundaries however plot 7 in total is a small piece of land between the border of shanes castle townlandand milltown

you are going to need church records to explore further if they exist
the source is https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records
good luck onwards

[tempogold]

Very many thanks for all this information . I have a much better Idea of were they lived now. Much appreciated.

[Kiltaglassan]

Just to add to BallyaltikilliganG's reply.
This is Kilbegs townland west of Antrim town.

https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/toome-upper/antrim/kilbegs/

KG

[tempogold]

Thank you for this. It was interesting to see the map and how close it was to Templepatrick were many of the Mckinley side lived in latter years.

[JackieNI]

Hello, I have Armstrongs on my family tree from that general area, but unfortunately don't have information going that far back.  I have a John Armstrong from Dunsilly who married in 1894.  His father was also called John Armstrong and he married a Mary Jane (something).  The generation you are talking about would be one generation further back again I think.  Let me know if you think there could be connections here.

[tempogold]

Interested to see your post. Its quite possible there is a link as families didn't move around that much then. Unfortunately I have no information on the Armstrong's . I got  Johns name from his daughters marriage certificate.

 I see however that from the information from Ballyaltiklligans  post above about Griffiths Valuation that there is John Armstrong from Dunsily listed as well as my Robert McKinley . So I wonder if your John A who marries in 1894 is his son.? Do you  by any chance have his  marriage cert ? I am wondering if we could find his birth. I am also  wondering if  the John Armstrong  snr could be a brother to my Mary Jane Armstrong .

The witnesses to the marriage of Robert McKinley and Mary Jane Armstrong  were a William Robinson and a Andy Hamill --just mentioning it in case on any documents you have . Is your tree on Ancestry ?

[tempogold]

Hello again

I have just been on Groni and found a death record for a John Armstrong from Dunsilly who died on 27 July 1874 . He was married at the time. Age 78. Informant was a Jane Clark from Dunsilly.
Ref is d/1874/3/1001/2/320

Just wondering if he might be the father of your John Armstrong--might be of use. ?

[hallmark]

Any Registered BDM^'S for them will be in Registration District : Antrim

https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=2

If John Armstrong from Dunsilly who married in 1894 registered the Marriage a Search like this on

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

should find it.