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Re: What's the largest cM DNA match you have where you can't identify the link?
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 04 August 19 13:35 BST (UK) »
I've been holding off paying for an ancestry sub but might have to bite the bullet, only seeing a couple of generations on the shared match page isn't getting me anywhere.

Have you had a 14 day free trial with them yet? It's sometimes enough to get the results you want, or at least a start on them.

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Re: What's the largest cM DNA match you have where you can't identify the link?
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 04 August 19 13:41 BST (UK) »
Ha,

Keep thinking about trial but want to save it for when my diary isn't so busy to maximise its worth.

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Re: What's the largest cM DNA match you have where you can't identify the link?
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 04 August 19 20:42 BST (UK) »
I've recently tested with Living DNA and then uploaded the results to GEDmatch.

My closest match is a 50.7cM match and I'm working with the other person to find the link. We suspect a few, however we have so many ancestors from the same areas on both sides. We've tried to Triangulate but the other parties aren't very responsive according to the other match. The match has seen my tree and can't see anything/anyone familiar to him.

I have an unknown recent ancestor that I've been desperate to find for years, my 2x great-grandfather. His child was illegitimate and the father is down as "unknown". No BMDs tell me anything.

I've recently ordered a test with Ancestry, just for it's large database and how good it is for finding missing links. So fingers crossed I'll find this man and his line through GEDmatch with what I have already or Ancestry.

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Re: What's the largest cM DNA match you have where you can't identify the link?
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 07:07 BST (UK) »
I have 1,941 cM across 66 segments showing 'Close Family–1st Cousin' match but receive no reply from message sent, so cannot identify the link.
I can only assume the match is from my mother's older sister who had to have her 5 children adopted when she discovered her husband was a bigamist with another wife. This happened in 1939 depression years when my aunt had no means with which to support her children after her husband left.
My second match is 938 cM across 51 segments '1st–2nd Cousin' , 893 cM across 37 segments '1st–2nd Cousin ' & from on from there are 336 more 2nd–3rd Cousin or 4th - 5th.
A couple down the line I can see the connections and have enjoyed growing my family and joining the dots.


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Re: What's the largest cM DNA match you have where you can't identify the link?
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 09:11 BST (UK) »
I have 1,941 cM across 66 segments showing 'Close Family–1st Cousin' match but receive no reply from message sent, so cannot identify the link.
I can only assume the match is from my mother's older sister who had to have her 5 children adopted when she discovered her husband was a bigamist with another wife. This happened in 1939 depression years when my aunt had no means with which to support her children after her husband left.
My second match is 938 cM across 51 segments '1st–2nd Cousin' , 893 cM across 37 segments '1st–2nd Cousin ' & from on from there are 336 more 2nd–3rd Cousin or 4th - 5th.
A couple down the line I can see the connections and have enjoyed growing my family and joining the dots.

Hello Deb, Welcome to Rootschat. 1941 cM is too high to be the child of your mother’s sister. You should consider other potential relationships. To see what might be possible plug the number of cM into the Shared cM tool at DNA Painter. https://dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4
The 938 cM match and 893 cM matches are at a level that could be your cousin from your mother’s sister. If you need more advice on how to analyse these, start a post of your own. There are lots of Rootschatters who check in regularly on the «Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing» board who would be able to offer you some pointers.
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Re: What's the largest cM DNA match you have where you can't identify the link?
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 11:24 BST (UK) »
I have 1,941 cM across 66 segments showing 'Close Family–1st Cousin' match but receive no reply from message sent, so cannot identify the link.
I can only assume the match is from my mother's older sister who had to have her 5 children adopted when she discovered her husband was a bigamist with another wife. This happened in 1939 depression years when my aunt had no means with which to support her children after her husband left.
My second match is 938 cM across 51 segments '1st–2nd Cousin' , 893 cM across 37 segments '1st–2nd Cousin ' & from on from there are 336 more 2nd–3rd Cousin or 4th - 5th.
A couple down the line I can see the connections and have enjoyed growing my family and joining the dots.

Yes. Welcome to Rootschat from me too, Deb.

Craclyn has given you some good advice here with the DNA painter site.
Having checked myself what your 1941 cM match might indicate in terms of relationship, you will probably have some thinking to do.

I would strongly recommend you do post a separate query of your own if you need advice, some very very helpful people here who will be able to give you guidance.

Good luck with your researches!  :)
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Re: What's the largest cM DNA match you have where you can't identify the link?
« Reply #51 on: Monday 19 August 19 02:07 BST (UK) »
Mine is 180 cM across 9 segments. I can tell who our common ancestors probably are based on shared matches but I think this one has to be a NPE in his tree that we don't know about.

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Re: What's the largest cM DNA match you have where you can't identify the link?
« Reply #52 on: Monday 19 August 19 07:00 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat Deb. 

I have sent you a Private Message.  My husband recently went through a situation very similar to yours.

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Re: What's the largest cM DNA match you have where you can't identify the link?
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 28 August 19 01:15 BST (UK) »
I can give example that was a 196 cm across 9 sectors match to me
And 366 cm match across 9 sectors to my mother.
We did know that it was likely to be a half cousin of hers because her mother was born out of wedlock. But the man in question had no idea that his grandmother had had a child before his father. Relationship indicated as 2nd cousin to my mother because they only had 1 grandparent in common.

 If you  expect to find great grandparents in common
 think about looking at 1 of the


Your grandparents having pre marital or extra marital child. 
 
 

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