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Potential ancestors on Thrulines
« on: Monday 01 July 19 14:19 BST (UK) »
I have a set of potential 4 x great grandparents suggested by thrulines. But, they are completely wrong. I can't see how Ancestry has come up with them. When I click evaluate, none of the trees it lists has actually got my known 3 x great grandmother as the daughter of this potential ancestor couple, and it states "None of the trees linked to your DNA matches identify David Christopher as the father of Elizabeth Christopher." So no DNA evidence to support the prediction.
David Christopher does have a daughter called Elizabeth, but she is nine years younger than mine, born in same county but not same town. She died unmarried in 1812 at the age of 22, whereas my ancestor married in 1807, produced 8 children and died in 1856
Does anyone know how I can remove these incorrect people from my Thrulines list?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Potential ancestors on Thrulines
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 July 19 14:31 BST (UK) »
Does this help? (From the introduction tutorial)

ThruLines has found potential ancestors that are not related to me. Can I choose not to see these people?

If a potential ancestor does not support what you know about your family's history, you may contact the family tree owner associated with that person to correct any errors or make changes. You may also want to review relevant records and family trees to determine if there actually is a relationship.
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Potential ancestors on Thrulines
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 July 19 14:41 BST (UK) »
The trouble is none of the family trees that has David Christopher are incorrect. He does have a daughter Elizabeth, none of them have tried to marry her off to my 3 x great grandfather, they just leave her as a single woman. It seems that Ancestry's algorithms have ignored the fact that year of birth and place of birth are completely wrong when compared with my Elizabeth.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Potential ancestors on Thrulines
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 July 19 14:51 BST (UK) »
I am new to these Thrulines, only got them yesterday,I may not have the full grasp of them yet.


Do you get this Thrulines match telling you, you have a  shared ancestor hint or is it just an ordinary Thrulines match i.e the more speculative type?
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.


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Re: Potential ancestors on Thrulines
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 July 19 16:23 BST (UK) »
When I go to explore thrulines, I get a list of all my direct ancestors, starting with parents, then grandparents etc. All the ones from my tree are coloured pink or blue depending on gender. Where I haven't got an ancestor, it adds them in green labelled "potential ancestor". A few I know are correct, just haven't updated my Ancestry tree, but they're in my off line version.
But David Christopher and wife don't fit with my tree, and none of the trees with David Christopher in has my ancestor on them
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Potential ancestors on Thrulines
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 July 19 17:45 BST (UK) »
When thrulines first appeared my feedback, through a third person intermediary collecting info on Ancestry's behalf, was how did I get rid of an incorrect potential ancestor.

The response was - it hadn't been thought of and was not possible to do although they would make a note of it so maybe still not possible or they haven't bothered.

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Re: Potential ancestors on Thrulines
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 July 19 22:32 BST (UK) »
I got mine green ones to disappear...trying to remember how.. I have a feeling I also found them as a hint and ignored them
I was clicking about so much trying to figure how to make them go away I'm not sure now how I did it, sorry.

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Re: Potential ancestors on Thrulines
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 July 19 07:22 BST (UK) »
I've also got them as hints and dismissed them, but they're still there in Thrulines
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Potential ancestors on Thrulines
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 July 19 07:25 BST (UK) »
My tree has a clearly identified great grandfather A of my husband, plus his wife B and ancestors of both of them for a few generations.

Thrulines insist that his great grandparents could have been X and Z, plus all of their respective ancestors.

It also suggests potential ancestors when I have ruled them out for whatever reason.

I don't use Thrulines very much, I prefer to look at Common Ancestor filter, still some mistakes, but not as many - most seem plausible if not proven to my satisfaction.

Unless Sinann remembers how she got rid of her wrong suggestions, the best thing to do is just to ignore them.

As for the quote from Ancestry 'If a potential ancestor does not support what you know about your family's history, you may contact the family tree owner associated with that person to correct any errors or make changes'.

The tree they have suggested is not necessarily wrong in the first place, when Ancestry plucks it out of nowhere as a match. A and B above are not in any way connected to X and Y,  but the tree with X and Y itself isn't incorrect, just the association.

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