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Re: Harry James Vernon
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 04 July 19 17:04 BST (UK) »
It's odd..have looked up all the various alias' & someone of each of the names can be found in Islington but with no connections..various ages..cab drivers...errand boys etc.There seems no rhyme or reason

I found some of the names but different ages I think also.
One roused suspicion at first - Harry Joseph Weston was married to Katherine/Catherine Florence L Harradine in 1898 and we also have Harry Stantiford Thompson marrying Kate Florence Peters in 1907. ::)

Are they in the same census at times?
Do any electoral rolls overlap?
These would perhaps discount some people/names.

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Re: Harry James Vernon
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 04 July 19 18:00 BST (UK) »
Harry is short for Harold of course and another name for Henry, as in Prince Harry.

Has anyone tried looking him up under either of those names ?
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Re: Harry James Vernon
« Reply #65 on: Friday 05 July 19 08:36 BST (UK) »
Harry Stantiford Thompson married Kate Florence Peters in 1907 Croydon.

They had at least one child Harold Edward Thompson born in1909/10

Kate Florence died in 2Q 1919 in Fulham age 32.

Harry S Thompson married Olive M Snow 3Q 1929 in Fulham.  (have not seen what the 'S' stands for) but very likely the right one.

A son and daughter Thompson (nee Snow) born in 1935 and 1937 in Brentford.
(not sure if I can put their names in this message as they may well be living.)

There is still the question of why Harry S Thompson - seemingly a wealthy man -used aliases.
What is the link between Harry S Thompson and Harry James Vernon?

If this is the same Harry S marriage - those birth entries are late entries. There are three Snow children born c 1920 all shown as late entries in 1930s.
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Re: Harry James Vernon
« Reply #66 on: Friday 05 July 19 11:04 BST (UK) »
hi
Have been following this post but apologies if you already have the following and not sure what it means.
London electoral Roles
1935
24 Bishops Road Hammersmith and Fulham
Rose Tucker
Henry Tucker
Harry James Weston (abode 14 Marlborough Road)
Olive May Weston           "
Henry Stantiford Thompson

1938
24 Bishops Road
Henry Stantiford Thompson
Harry James Weston (abode 5 Leonard Road Folkestone)
Olive May Weston             "

In 1939 Olive M Thompson is living at 5 Lennard Road Folkstone.

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Re: Harry James Vernon
« Reply #67 on: Friday 05 July 19 11:36 BST (UK) »
That is a good find  :o I had looked at those electoral lists and never thought to search them a bit more  ::)

It certainly links two of the names but not quite Harry James Vernon just yet.

I still think the will might be helpful in explaining the various names and hopefully it would be the right Harry J V.
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Re: Harry James Vernon
« Reply #68 on: Friday 05 July 19 11:48 BST (UK) »
1933
Harry Stantiford Thompson is at 14 Marlborough Road, Brentford

1933
H S T is also at Bishops Road together with Olive May Weston and Harry James Weston

Does the will have Harry Joseph Weston ?

There are also births for these two, I think so they can’t be the same person ... confusing  ???
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Re: Harry James Vernon
« Reply #69 on: Friday 05 July 19 12:25 BST (UK) »
Acton Gazette 4th feb 1916 (available FindMyPast)
The article is quite long and involved but the gist of it is..
Arthur Gilbey was charged with neglecting to give required particulars under the Chiswick Natinoal Registration Act.
the names mentioned are
James Weston
Harry James Weston (signed as)
Harry Weston (real name) of Bishops Road Fulham.
They all appear to be the same person.

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Re: Harry James Vernon
« Reply #70 on: Friday 05 July 19 12:32 BST (UK) »
Later news report Middlesex County Times 9th Feb 1916
Part of report
"Defendant denied that he had carried on businesses at different addresses and under various names"
"He did not know where he was born but remembered Croydon for many years, His real name was Harry Weston."

Sadly no mention of the surname Vernon, frustratingly.

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Re: Harry James Vernon
« Reply #71 on: Friday 05 July 19 12:54 BST (UK) »
I 1911 there is a Thompson family at the 24 Bishops Road address who appear to be Harry Stantiford Thompson and Kate Florence Peters married 1907 Croydon as mentioned before I think
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