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Offline Mark Saxon

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Re: Help please with my Great Granmother Roughley Manchester/Salford
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 16 June 19 17:13 BST (UK) »
Well that is fascinating.
Maybe she turned to prostitution after he was put away?
If indeed these are my Great Grandmother.
The second one in 1901 looks very likely as the daughter was admitted to the school just as she was being released after her 3 month stretch. Did children go prison with their parents back then?
I like the way he gets 2 months for assault and she gets 3 months for drunk and disorderly. I suppose there was the neglect bit as well.  :D

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Re: Help please with my Great Granmother Roughley Manchester/Salford
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 16 June 19 17:30 BST (UK) »
Might this be my  Mary Jane Roughley??

B1859 Manchester Parents James Roughley B1833 and mother Frances Quinn B1836.

Her trail seems to go cold after 1871.

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Re: Help please with my Great Granmother Roughley Manchester/Salford
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 June 19 12:22 BST (UK) »
Following on from the information that she used an alias Flynn I see there is a Sarah Flinn B1882 to Thomas Flinn and Mary Jane Roughley in Salford ! Ill go and see what became of them now.

Can anybody please help with Mary Jane Roughley's admission to the New Bridge Workhouse in March 1895? I am sure I saw a record somewhere which said her birth year was 1861. She and Mary Alice actually have the surname RUGHFLY on these records. This is also the surname on Mary Alice's birth certificate.

This is all really helpful and thank you all so much for the time you have spent to assist.

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Re: Help please with my Great Granmother Roughley Manchester/Salford
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 18 June 19 05:53 BST (UK) »
The admission is on FindMyPast and Mary J's birth year is listed as 1861

Kay

Added On the GRO Birth Index
SARAH  ANN FLYNN mothers maiden name     RAUGHLEY     
GRO Ref: 1882  Sept Qrter  SALFORD  Vol 08D  Page 164

On Lancshire Parish Clerks Online

Baptism: 16 Aug 1882 St Bartholomew, Salford, Lancashire
Sarah Roughley - [Child] of Thomas Flinn & Mary Jane Roughley
Born: 8 Aug 1882
Abode: 81 Franklin Street
Occupation: Dyer


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Re: Help please with my Great Granmother Roughley Manchester/Salford
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 19 June 19 20:56 BST (UK) »
I haven't seen FMPs Manchester Industrial school records but I did get my grandmas (there in 1901) from Manchester Central library. In addition to Admission they note her conduct and where she was discharged to age 16 ie employer and address. They kept tabs on her till age 21, noting she made a good marriage.



Westmoreland -Farrer,Thompson,Park,Wharton,Airey
Lancs  Farrer ,Thompson,Clarke,Brewer,Reid,Howarth,Feast,Sladen,Southern

Ireland(Offaly)Reid
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Re: Help please with my Great Granmother Roughley Manchester/Salford
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 19 June 19 21:14 BST (UK) »
So Sarah Roughley/Flynn is probably a new great aunt you didn't know of?

ADDED: 1891 - May be at Poor Law School, Holly Mount, Tottington Lower End, Bury Lancs
RG12; Piece: 3129; Folio: 128; Page: 2
Sarah Flynn 9 born Salford

ADDED 2: For the back burner
1881 @ 81 West Union St Salford
Thomas Flynn unm lodger 26 b Salford cotton dyer
RG11 Piece 3965 Folio 97 Page 7
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Help please with my Great Granmother Roughley Manchester/Salford
« Reply #15 on: Friday 21 June 19 14:08 BST (UK) »
Paid my £7 and got the death certificate for a Mary Jane Roughley who died in 1902.

Not sure it helps to pin her down but it does say................

Age 44 so born about 1858.

Died 12/7/1902 at the Sanatorium Pendleton Salford.

Doubler in Cotton Mill of 31 St Stephen Street Salford.

Informant: James Roughley Brother of 107 Bradford Road Manchester

Can anybody please confirm this is James Roughley B1864 who married Mary Hannah Haslam in 1884?

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Re: Help please with my Great Granmother Roughley Manchester/Salford
« Reply #16 on: Friday 21 June 19 18:25 BST (UK) »
Again it doesn't help but in 1901 at 31 St Stephens Street Salford lived Thomas Carruthers boot repairer 24, wife Maud 21 & daughters Batrice 2 & Jessie 3 mo, all born Salford 
RG13 3728 119 6

Possibly this marriage so not related to Mary Jane
Marriages Mar 1898 
CARRUTHERS    Thomas Purves        Salford    8d   184    
CASDAGLI    Theodore        Salford    8d   184    
RALLI    Catherine        Salford    8d   184    
Sherwin    Eliza Maud        Salford    8d   184
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Help please with my Great Granmother Roughley Manchester/Salford
« Reply #17 on: Friday 21 June 19 18:45 BST (UK) »
On studying it again it more likely to be be 37 St Stephen Street or even possibly 32. ???

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