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Brick wall continues! George Snowball, Ovingham
« on: Saturday 15 June 19 19:13 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone
I have struggled for a number of years to make a connection to my 4X great grandfather, George Snowball's parentage. If anyone is able to view this brick wall with a fresh pair of eyes and give some suggestions, I'd be really grateful.
Here's what I know:
The burial of George Snowball, aged 66, of Harlow Hill, took place at St. Mary the Virgin Parish Church in Ovingham, on 10th June 1824.Based on his burial date, his date of birth is therefore around 1758.

There is no registration of his birth in the Ovingham Parish registers. George does not appear on any baptism record for any contiguous parish to St. Mary the Virgin in Ovingham, around 1758, either.

I have searched the Wills and Administrations at the District Probate Registry at Durham and searched the transcript of baptisms of St. Mary the Virgin, Ovingham from 1750-1765. There is no reference to George Snowball at either, or in the baptism records of St. Cuthbert's Allendale. Dissenters (or Non-Conformist) baptism records for Ovingham parish also reveal nothing.

George Snowball appears in Ovingham in 1786, where he is recorded at his marriage to Mary Laidlar in Ovingham Parish church and where he is stated as being 'of this parish'.
I have checked to ascertain whether George was in 18th century Ovingham prior to the date of his marriage. These include a table of rents due and paid for Ovingham Parish (giving name of farms and occupiers), the Ovingham Parish Vestry Book (1680 – 1814) which includes pew allocation records, Ovingham Account Book (1736-1813) and Ovingham Churchwardens account book (1784-1860) but all to no avail.

George Snowball and wife, Mary, went on to have three children, Mary, John and George and lived at Fulan's Moor, just north of Harlow Hill. I can only hypothesise where he might have been born and who his parents might have been, so any clues are very welcome.

Steve







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Re: Brick wall continues!
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 June 19 19:22 BST (UK) »
There is a George bapt in Boldon, Durham, on 21 Oct 1759 son of Anthony & Ann Snowball according to Familysearch. Worth checking out.
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 June 19 19:41 BST (UK) »
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I have searched the Wills and Administrations at the District Probate Registry at Durham and searched the transcript of baptisms of St. Mary the Virgin, Ovingham from 1750-1765. There is no reference to George Snowball at either, or in the baptism records of St. Cuthbert's Allendale. Dissenters (or Non-Conformist) baptism records for Ovingham parish also reveal nothing.

What is the relevance of St Cuthbert Allendale to your search?
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Re: Brick wall continues!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 June 19 19:42 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone
I have struggled for a number of years to make a connection to my 4X great grandfather, George Snowball's parentage. If anyone is able to view this brick wall with a fresh pair of eyes and give some suggestions, I'd be really grateful.
Here's what I know:
The burial of George Snowball, aged 66, of Harlow Hill, took place at St. Mary the Virgin Parish Church in Ovingham, on 10th June 1824.Based on his burial date, his date of birth is therefore around 1758.

There is no registration of his birth in the Ovingham Parish registers. George does not appear on any baptism record for any contiguous parish to St. Mary the Virgin in Ovingham, around 1758, either.

I have searched the Wills and Administrations at the District Probate Registry at Durham and searched the transcript of baptisms of St. Mary the Virgin, Ovingham from 1750-1765. There is no reference to George Snowball at either, or in the baptism records of St. Cuthbert's Allendale. Dissenters (or Non-Conformist) baptism records for Ovingham parish also reveal nothing.

George Snowball appears in Ovingham in 1786, where he is recorded at his marriage to Mary Laidlar in Ovingham Parish church and where he is stated as being 'of this parish'.
I have checked to ascertain whether George was in 18th century Ovingham prior to the date of his marriage. These include a table of rents due and paid for Ovingham Parish (giving name of farms and occupiers), the Ovingham Parish Vestry Book (1680 – 1814) which includes pew allocation records, Ovingham Account Book (1736-1813) and Ovingham Churchwardens account book (1784-1860) but all to no avail.

George Snowball and wife, Mary, went on to have three children, Mary, John and George and lived at Fulan's Moor, just north of Harlow Hill. I can only hypothesise where he might have been born and who his parents might have been, so any clues are very welcome.

Steve

Hello Steve

I'm stuck with a 4 x Gt Grandparent.

Of this Parish does not always mean much, because the residence requirement could be as little as 22 days (one week's notice to marry by Banns, then read on the same day of the week for three weeks in a row is 15 days).

Two questions:-
1) Did they Marry by Licence and if so, have you seen the Marriage Allegation / Intention and also the Marriage Bond, including the Bondsman and witness?
2) You have not mentioned the witness names at the Marriage?

Witness/es might be a church official, but many witnesses were related to the couple's family or wider family and who may have left Wills.

Mark


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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 June 19 20:11 BST (UK) »
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1) Did they Marry by Licence and if so, have you seen the Marriage Allegation / Intention and also the Marriage Bond, including the Bondsman and witness?

Marriage by Banns https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6WJR-LS?i=101&wc=9K53-BZS%3A13617901%2C29952501%2C29952502&cc=1309819
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 June 19 20:28 BST (UK) »
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I have searched the Wills and Administrations at the District Probate Registry at Durham and searched the transcript of baptisms of St. Mary the Virgin, Ovingham from 1750-1765. There is no reference to George Snowball at either, or in the baptism records of St. Cuthbert's Allendale. Dissenters (or Non-Conformist) baptism records for Ovingham parish also reveal nothing.

What is the relevance of St Cuthbert Allendale to your search?

George Snowball's bride, Mary Laidlar, was baptised at St. Cuthbert on 20th July 1760. I had wondered if the records here would give some clue.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 June 19 20:52 BST (UK) »
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I'm stuck with a 4 x Gt Grandparent.

Of this Parish does not always mean much, because the residence requirement could be as little as 22 days (one week's notice to marry by Banns, then read on the same day of the week for three weeks in a row is 15 days).

Two questions:-
1) Did they Marry by Licence and if so, have you seen the Marriage Allegation / Intention and also the Marriage Bond, including the Bondsman and witness?
2) You have not mentioned the witness names at the Marriage?

Witness/es might be a church official, but many witnesses were related to the couple's family or wider family and who may have left Wills.


Hi Mark
Thanks for the input.
For clarity, by 4X great grandfather I mean my direct paternal grandfather going back 4 generations.
1) Marriage by Banns
2) A transcript of the marriage from the St. Mary the Virgin Parish Church records reads:
A.D.1786 married
Banns of a Marriage was published in this Church between
George Snowball & Mary Laidler both of this Parish June the 4th, the 11th & the 18th 1786 by me Chris. Gregson,  Curate
George Snowball & Mary Laidler both of this Parish were married in this church by Bannes this Twenty Fifth Day of June,
One Thousand Seven Hundred and Eighty Six by me Chris. Gregson, Curate. Their marriage was solomised between
George Snowball (X his mark) &
Mary Laidler (X her mark)
in the Presence of us, John Laidler (X his mark) &
James Richardson (X his mark).

John Laidler is Mary's brother and James Richardson has, hitherto, given me no further clues.
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 June 19 23:22 BST (UK) »
Hello Steve

Not seen originals - Nine Snowball burials (one is George) at Ovingham Parish, from Ovingham, Hedley, Wylam and Hedley Grange.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Ovingham/ChurchRecords/BOVI


Two Snowball appear in the Election Register of 1832 and must have owned Land:-
Thomas Snowball of Hedley Grange
John Snowball of Hedley
Two Richardsons above
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qHRbAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=%22Hedley+Grange%22+Ovingham&source=bl&ots=jTshjXk2_I&sig=ACfU3U0SBy1n3caSJJIc_T5qCSxpFntk2g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwpYPpxOziAhVhqnEKHe5vBckQ6AEwAnoECAkQAQ


Added: About 1802 - Mr J. Smurfitt, Linen Draper, &c. of Monk Wearmouth Shore, and Lieutenant in the Durham City Loyal Volunteers, to Mrs Kay, Daughter of Mr Snowball, of Hedley, Northumberland.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DDSx3kVT1RMC&pg=PA293&lpg=PA293&dq=%22Snowball+of+Hedley%22&source=bl&ots=qW-1z7C8-9&sig=ACfU3U0v0JQlZfOVkSnYZkRCAKJgM_ahsg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwilpcONyOziAhUNz4UKHZUMAv0Q6AEwA3oECAgQAQ


Added: Internet, not checked:- Thomas Snowball, of Hedley, near Stocksfield, in the county of Northumberland, Farmer and Beerhouse Keeper

Are any of the above linked to your George?

Added: North East Inheritance Database
There are a handful of Snowball Wills for Ovingham mid 18th into the 19th Century, on the North-East Inheritance Database, a Free resource.
http://familyrecords.dur.ac.uk/nei/data/simple.php

The surname Snowball is a local one to the Ovingham area. Have you viewed those Wills and Admins?

Mark

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 16 June 19 02:30 BST (UK) »
From Durham Records Online. Your George Snowball of Harlow Hill is buried. Durham Records Online. Index is free then to see the full transcript is at a reasonable price.

Baptisms
South Shields
1753
George
Snowball

East Boldon
 
Baptisms
South Shields
1759
George
Snowball

West Boldon
 
Baptisms
Chester-le-Street
1761
George
Snowball

Birtley
 
Burials
Hexham
1824
George
Snowball
abt 1758
Harlow Hill
 
1841 Census
Sunderland
1841
George
Snowball
abt 1760
Y
 
Burials
Sunderland
1844
George
Snowball
abt 1760
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