Looking for information on John Cattell who lived Preston Bagot late 17 hundreds

[cattellfamsearch]

Hi,
It appears we are indeed cousins through the Cattell family, but I think you are a little way ahead of me in your search.
I'm almost sure William never married, I could be wrong of course, it certainly wouldn't be the first time, but I've seen some of his personal papers and can find no evidence of a wife.
Nicholas is much more complicated, in later years he appears on an electoral register for 1837 which gives his abode as West Bromwich, and another in 1839 states Henley in Arden.  But then if he owned property in both places, could he vote in both??  I have investigated one or two Mary Cattell burials, as this is a more common name, but am not convinced they are Nicholas's wife.  I was thinking they might be buried together somewhere, as lots of the others are.
On a more positive note, the wills mentioned by ciderdrinker have certainly been helpful in confirming the Preston Bagot and Beaudersert origins.
I think my next step might be to visit Sandwell Archives to see what burial records they have for the West Bromwich area, as I've had no luck online.

[MazCattell]

Hi to All, just to add my name into the mix as I also believe John Cattell was my 4th great grandfather. I have just returned to double check details of relationships and came across this thread.  Clearly I need a re-visit my records as I believed Joseph was the father of John born the year prior to Martha’s death.  This is clearly complicated by the common use of the same Christian names carried down.

Just to add info, I spent time in Claverdon during the summer when I trawled the graveyards in the area, having previously found the grave in Preston Bagot of Joseph and Hannah Kemp.  I have photos of the church, graveyard and graves in Preston Bagot.  Having walked directly to this grave previously, I was shocked when I walked almost immediately to the grave of Joseph in Beaudesert. For info Beaudesert and Preston Bagot churches were always linked, and even though Henley-in-Arden is about 200 metres from Beaudesert, parishioners from there were buried at I have lots of photos of the graves I have found which I’m happy to share.  I searched for graves of the families Cattell, Mortiboys, Findon and Hands - All of whom appear interlinked along the line.  Apart from the above I also visited Claverdon AND of great interest Lapworth. At Lapworth I found a grave of a William Cattell who, along with his wife was headmaster at Lapworth School (worth a google). Previously John Mortiboys was headmaster which adds to the families links. I also have photos of Williams grave, but do not think this is the missing William as he was born much later.  As stated I’ve got lots of photos that I’m happy to share.  I go down from the Isaac line and my family moved away to Darfield, Yorkshire.  I would recommend a visit to all the graveyards, they all have historic and family interest.  Will trawl through all the info in the thread to check where I have gone wrong and post again.  Glad to meet you all, Marilyn

[MazCattell]

Correction

“Henley-in-Arden is about 200 metres from Beaudesert, parishioners from there were buried at......”

Missed out

Claverdon which is about 2-3 miles away.  Henley in Arden has never had a churchyard.

Should add I also went to the visitor centre and the churches of Arden offices on the high street in Henley.  Interesting but not much information, On my next visit I will try direct access to the local priests of the churches. Marilyn

[cattellfamsearch]

Hi Maz, u and I must have a close connection as Isaac is my 4x Great Grandfather on th maternal side of the family.

I have visited many of the places you mention and am aware of the graves at Preston Bagot and Beaudesert, but am anxious to find Williams, Nicholas and Mary and Isaac and Ann's graves, as I have visited all the likely places and drawn a blank.  Have you had any success with any of these?

I found the wills mentioned in Cider drinkers posts most helpful, they certainly confirm that Joseph was John's Brother, a fact that I hadn't been able to prove until now, even though they both lived and farmed in Preston Bagot.

I have not done so much research on the Mortiboys, or Hands side  of the family, and have not found any burials at all.

I am aware that some of the family "migrated" to Yorkshire, although, again I haven't followed this up yet.

Good to speak to you, nice to know there are others out there with an interest in the family.

[MazCattell]

Hi there, thanks for reply.  Before we plan a family reunion, please could I check with you that the Isaac (1788-1878) you refer to is the same one.  Married to Anne Fisher (1796-1880).  I have to ask as I believed that John (his father) was the the son of Joseph and Martha (they did have a son John) so my tree has now been blown away.  If your Isaac is the same one, I am a product of Josiah (1833-1906) and Charlotte Dyer.  Where do you sit after Isaac? I’ve got lots more investigating to do, but really went further than I imagined after a weekend away at Billesley Manor and spotted a sign for Preston Bagot that just rang a bell on my then, loose investigations.  It was the grave at Preston Bagot that really caught my interest.  I  have scoured that graveyard twice now for more graves, so I think any other of the Cattell family buried there would have been buried close by or adjacent. There is clearly a very large void surrounding the grave with no headstones.  It would have been normal to have a family plot and the remaining grave is too close to the church to not have had burials.  I’m glad you have visited Preston Bagot it is in such a beautiful setting. Re William(1814-1860) and John Mortiboys (1761-1844) link with Lapworth school (see rowingtonrecords.com), I am now going to search back from there as I think more may be found. Incidentally when I found Williams grave at Lapworth I stumbled over what I thought was a tree stump which turned out to be an overgrown flat grave of his young daughter Katherine.  I have photos of Lapworth church and graves etc as also Beaudest and Preston Bagot.  I’m going to have a busy weekend now trying to re-organise my tree!