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Re: Birth look up please , Arthur Hurley born c1882.
« Reply #18 on: Monday 27 May 19 12:58 BST (UK) »
Both Walter and Arthur Hurley were of 3 Union Buildings when they enrolled at Union St School in 1891.

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3 Union Buildings Union Street Woolwich                        
Joseph   Lacey   Head   Married         1832   General Labourer   Ireland
Mary A   Lacey   Wife   Married         1832   Ireland
Henry   SMITH   Boarder   Married      1861   General Labourer   London, Middlesex,
Emily   ditto   Boarder   Married   1856   London, Middlesex,
George   ditto   Boarder   Single   1877    London, Middlesex
Walter   ditto   Boarder         1881   London, Middlesex
Arthur   ditto   Boarder         1885    London, Middlesex
RG12 Piece 532 Folio   59 Page   43
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Re: Birth look up please , Arthur Hurley born c1882.
« Reply #19 on: Monday 27 May 19 13:21 BST (UK) »
Here are two baptism with surname EARLY looks as if their births are registered with surname HURLEY

George EARLY bn 25th Apr 1877   
Bpt. 10 Jun 1877 Deptford St Paul, Lewisham
Father:   Arthur Early occ labourer. Mother:   Emily
abode Mill Lane

HURLEY, GEORGE  mmn VINE
1877  J Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 857   

Daniel John EARLY bn 21st Aug 1875   
Bpt. 27 Oct 1875 Deptford St John, Lewisham
Father:   Arthur Early occ deal-porter  Mother:   Emily
Abode 8 Mill Lane

HURLEY, DANIEL  JOHN   mmm VINE
1875  D Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 824   
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Re: Birth look up please , Arthur Hurley born c1882.
« Reply #20 on: Monday 27 May 19 14:27 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ladyhawk
7 Sep 1890 Holy Trinity, Woolwich, Greenwich
Henry SMITH  28 carman 33 Union Buildings Woolwich
father Henry carman
Emily EARLY 30 widow, nurse  22 Union Buildings
father William VINE occ sweep
she made her mark (x)
Witnesses Mary Bu?nitt (x) & Daniel VINE (x)

It looks as if the witnesses to Emily's marriage might well be her sister Mary & brother Daniel

33 Union Buildings   
John Barritt/Burritt?   23 Lambeth general
Mary Barritt   27 Greenwich
William VINE brother in law   20 Greenwich occ Chimney Sweep
1891 census RG10; Piece: 783; Folio: 81; Page: 37

Possibly Emily VINE's parents

William VINE 27 Woolwich occ Sweep
Sarah 25 Greenwich
Mary Ann 7 Greenwich
David Daniel 4
1851 census HO107; Piece: 1586; Folio: 90; Page: 14

Daniel John VINE baptism 5 Sept 1847 father William, occ Chimney Sweep
mother Sarah

Daniel VINE married 5 March 1867 father William occ Chimney Sweep
one witness Mary Burrett both made their mark (x)

Emily VINE born 2nd March bpt 31 March 1854 St Alphege Greenwich
Father William occ Sweep mother Sarah

Emily VINE Discharge Age:   14  Birth Date:   abt 1854
Discharge Date:   8 Jul 1868 Discharge Place:   Greenwich, London
notes taken out by mother

18 Mar 1878 St John, Deptford, Lewisham
Emily VINE father William occ Chimney Sweep
Arthur HURLY occ labourer father John occ Labourer
both f/a & single, both made their mark (x), both residence 8 Mill Lane

banns were read 3rd, 10th & 17th March 1878, both of this Parish

Bp 8 Oct 1879 St John Deptford
Mary Ellen HURLY born 27 Sept
Father Arthur, labourer mother Emily
Abode 8 Mill Lane

mentioned previously by keyboard
1871 census Mill Lane Woods Lodging House, St Paul, Greenwich
Arthur HURLEY   21 Deptford occ Labourer
Emily                20
Piece:   749 Folio:   78 Page   19

Were Arthur & Emily living together as man & wife before 1878 marriage  ???

This appears to be Arthur HURLEY with his parents on 1861 census

51, Old Kent Road Great Stockwell Street, Camberwell
John Hurley   Head   Married   1814   Woolwich, Kent occ Labourer
Mary   Hurley   Wife      1821      Hertfordshire
Mary   Hurley   Daughter   1845   Southwark, Surrey Gen Serv
Timothy   Hurley   Son   1847   Southwark, Surrey Gen Serv
Arthur   Hurley   Son   1850   Scholar   Camberwell, Surrey
Edward   Hurley   Son   1853   Scholar   Camberwell, Surrey
Henry   Hurley   Son   1855   Scholar   Camberwell, Surrey
George   Hurley   Son   1859      Camberwell, Surrey
RG09 Piece 385 Folio   26 Page   12
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Re: Birth look up please , Arthur Hurley born c1882.
« Reply #21 on: Monday 27 May 19 15:49 BST (UK) »
 :) Great work Ladyhawk, can anyone locate the baptism/death of the Arthur Hurley 1873 mmn Vine?
Keyboard86

EDIT So it looks like Arthur and Emily were living together prior to marriage 1878:-

Baptism Arthur Hurley 19th March 1873 Christchurch, Greenwich Father Arthur Mother Emily
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Birth look up please , Arthur Hurley born c1882.
« Reply #22 on: Monday 27 May 19 16:46 BST (UK) »


EDIT So it looks like Arthur and Emily were living together prior to marriage 1878:-

Baptism Arthur Hurley 19th March 1873 Christchurch, Greenwich Father Arthur Mother Emily

Well found I had tried but failed to find it transcribed as HUTLEY on Anc*y

2 Union Place Old Woolwich Road
Arthur occ Lighterman

I’ve been trying to find Emily Vine bn c1854 on 1861 census at the moment this is all I’ve come up with as a possibility but wrong surname  ???

Richard Busey   56
Sarah Busey   34
Emily Busey   7
Sarah Shaw   62
RG 9; Piece: 401; Folio: 66; Page: 6
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Re: Birth look up please , Arthur Hurley born c1882.
« Reply #23 on: Monday 27 May 19 18:50 BST (UK) »
 :) 1861 a problem, but is this mother Sarah Vine in 1871 census:-

George Mcbean 48 b Greenwich
Sarah Vine 45 Widow/Sister b Greenwich
Sarah Shaw 74 Widow/Mother b Portsmouth
Residing Union Place, Greenwich
Census ref RG10/757/6/6
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 :) With Sarah Shaw on both 1861/71 looks suspicious with Busey  surname, on FindMyPast transcribed as Bary, Sarah Shaw 62 b Portsmouth Mother in Law in 1861 census.
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Birth look up please , Arthur Hurley born c1882.
« Reply #24 on: Monday 27 May 19 19:20 BST (UK) »
Could this be the correct marriage for Emily’s parents  ???

31st Dec 1862 All Saints Kent
William VINE 40  occ Sweep John occ sweep
Sarah SHORE 36  father James occ Sailor
Both single both made their mark (x)

Edit - wondering if the above was a second marriage  for William even though it says bachelor :-\
there’s this 1861 census entry with a son Daniel

High Street, Erith, Dartford, Kent
Wm Vine   Head   Widower       1815   Sweep Beckley, Kent
Daniel   Vine   Son   -         1846   Sweep Beckley, Kent
William   Vine   Son   -         1849   Sweep Beckley, Kent
Elizabeth   Stone   Servant.  1821   Servant   Beckley, Kent
RG09 Piece 466 Folio   48 Page   26


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Re: Birth look up please , Arthur Hurley born c1882.
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 14:20 BST (UK) »
Hi from my notes, Surely Beckley is in Sussex, but Bexley is near Dartford?
1851/61 for Sarah Shaw b Portsmouth?
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Re: Birth look up please , Arthur Hurley born c1882.
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 14:29 BST (UK) »

Hi from my notes, Surely Beckley is in Sussex, but Bexley is near Dartford?
1851/61 for Sarah Shaw b Portsmouth?


It should be Bexley Kent - had not checked the original  ::)

Will amend my post - edit to late to amend now

from Genuki
"BEXLEY, a parish and village, chiefly in the hundred of Ruxley, partly in that of Lessness, lathe of Sutton-at-Hone, in the county of Kent, 3 miles from Dartford, 8 from Greenwich, and 13 from London
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