Hi Jane
Its good to hear from you, i hope you are well, yes you spoke to me before about your strong connections to the Wiltshire's in fact you have a fine Gipsy family through all sides, i thank you again for showing me all of your old photos i tried hour after hour to help you locate story's of your old peoples it was hard work but i was glad when you were happy. I wanted Sky to reply to me but i guess Sky's burned out. I think these Wiltshire's below may come out of Edward born around the 1760s, both sides the Newark line and the Yorkshire lot like the same names right up to the 1900s.
Jane in the Nottinghamshire press March 1924 is reported the death of Henry Wiltshire who is 71 years of age he passed away on the 2nd at Newark, under the title of ...........
"A well known Newarker's death”
Judging by his age he must have been born around the early 1850s they state he was the son of the late Joseph Wiltshire if this is the same family from the Joseph Wiltshire in my previous story then this Joe Wiltshire must be the son of the older Joseph who died in the 1860s and Henry the grandson of the Gipsy Joe Wiltshire born in the 1780s who could be the brother or son to the older Edward who married a Smith, the Joseph who was the father to Henry above had a fine trade in pottery-ware Henry and his sisters would go around the neighborhood selling pots on a dray drawn by a pony down through many decades you can see how they work the markets plus go knocking the doors, this is what makes me think that there is a chance that they may come out of the Gipsies, market traders tend to stick to markets, when you see the door to door work it shows more of a mindset.
Henry's father Joseph became well-to-do he had a fine house built in Newark known today as the old willow pattern in friary road it used to be known as priary road, its still there to this day with a plaque on the building above the archway to the front door you will see a very ornate stone decoration it represents the willow pattern of great renown in the pottery world.
Henry ended up in the Tenter building as some others did also, his fortune subsided at the deaths of his sisters who must have been the full force behind Henry at this time in his older life, we only can judge what we find there will be much more.
Henry in a lonely old state ended up seeking help from the poor law and grew weaker and weaker the relieving officer became a great friend at Henry funeral it is wrote his honesty and worth were recognized and esteemed by the wreaths on his coffin.
I am thinking all these Wiltshire's may link up, there is a chance that these people around Newark and Grantham Nottinghamshire could be from the same family line as the ones who went over to Yorkshire out of William the son of Edward, those that went over to Yorkshire were very wild like I can not help looking at all these Wiltshire's around Newark and thinking they were more of a gentle folk just pottering around selling earthenware, if they are linked up they must of just hit on a great living and evolved into the area without the need to have a larger traveling route, after the 1860s they evolve into a more settled type that's if they are all connected to the older traveling Wiltshire family's, where the alarm bells ring for me though is the fact in all the records i find around Newark there all Wiltshire's by name, the Wiltshire's over Yorkshire Nottingham Derbyshire are known as Wilsher Wilshaw Wilshire Wiltshaw. In the Derbyshire press in the month of October 1908 Thomas Wiltshire is charged and sent to prison for violently attacking the police while poaching it is told to the court how he used the alias of Wilsher and Wilshaw.
In the month of August 1860 in the Nottinghamshire press Thomas Willsher along with William Elliott was stated as being the principal Gipsies in an encampment of 30 Gipsies staying at the four lanes end Farnsfield where they were apprehended and later charged at Southwell. This is not far from Newark, this Thomas Willsher i have no doubt will link back to the Yorkshire line. It would be interesting to find out if the Wiltshire's around Newark are related to all the other Wiltshire's who are known by variations of their name and travel over several counties in a circuit.
This is a link below to a web site about Newark where these words are wrote about the Wiltshire's. They write that it was Henry who built the house, yet the story above tells of how it was Henry's father Joseph. I also came across an older record several years back stating this to, i will try and find it again, so you see how evan modern records could be found to be false, like i say i do not know for sure about the true history of these Wiltshires and if they truly link up to the older Edwards line, either way its a great story though.
http://www.newarkcivictrust.org.uk/public/documents/trails/victoriantrail.pdf One of the Town's finest name-plaques, “The Old Willow Pattern, marks the house erected in 1885 for Henry Wiltshire, glass and china dealer."
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/The_Old_Willow_Pattern_-_geograph.org.uk_-_3116554.jpg 