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Re: Is Sally another name for Sarah?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 19 May 19 03:25 BST (UK) »
her gravestone indicates she was a native of Rochdale.  She was always known as Sarah in Canada.

This is one of the things I've found with Canadian writings, there seems to have been a good recognition of where people originated (not just Country) i.e. the MI is a good indicator of fact in my own experience.

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Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: Is Sally another name for Sarah?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 19 May 19 08:04 BST (UK) »
My Sarahs were almost all known as Sadie.
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Re: Is Sally another name for Sarah?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 19 May 19 08:26 BST (UK) »
I have had a few different cases with the name Sarah...

Sarah as Clara - (Inverness-shire, Scotland)
Sally as Sarah - "
Sarah as Marion - "
Hannah as Sarah - (N/Irish living in England)

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Is Sally another name for Sarah?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 19 May 19 08:38 BST (UK) »
Just to add that I have Sarahs in five generations of my maternal line (including nieces). They have all been baptised as Sarah and some have been called Sally as the diminutive but not the other way around.

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Re: Is Sally another name for Sarah?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 June 19 00:44 BST (UK) »
I am wondering if the Sally of the following is my Sarah Whitaker:
Baptism: 23 Apr 1799 Blackwater St Unitarian Chapel, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Sally Whitaker - Daughter of Thomas Whitaker & Betty
    Abode: The new road
    Notes: [Baptised] at their house
    Baptised by: Thomas Threlkeld
    Register: Baptisms 1785 - 1837, Page 17
    Source: LDS Family Search

Some rootschatters have helped me trace a Charles Whitaker (link to post: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=811734.msg6720964#msg6720964) who was the son of a John Whitaker, who I think is:
Baptism: 1 Aug 1790 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
John Whitaker - Son of Thos. Whitaker & Betty, his wife
    Abode: Yorkshire Street
    Occupation: Taylor
    Baptised by: Thos. Bellas, Curate
    Source: LDS Film 2356442 and 1545749

I am making an assumption that Sally and John are siblings since the information seems to line up.  The timing of Sally's baptism works with the information on Sarah's gravestone.

I have attached a document with the information that the Lancashire Online Parish Clerk project website has on the parents of siblings that I believe belong to Sarah. 

Am I making the right connection between the Sally in the baptism and my Sarah?  I must admit, I do hope that this is the right connection.  I have been searching for Sarah's family for a long time.

Thanks!

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Re: Is Sally another name for Sarah?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 14 June 19 01:03 BST (UK) »
I can't access the document to read it. A Microsoft update an hour ago may be to blame.
Whitaker surname is common in Lancashire. Betty and Sarah were 2 of the commonest female forenames of the time; ditto Thomas for males.  I wouldn't assume anything.
Was there a reason why John was baptised at St. Chad and Sally at a Unitarian chapel?  Did Blackwater Unitarian Church exist in 1790 when John was baptised?
"Abode: the new road" on 1799 baptism may have meant a turnpike road. There were new turnpike roads built and existing roads improved all over England mid 18th-early 19th centuries.
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Re: Is Sally another name for Sarah?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 14 June 19 01:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Maiden Stone,

Unfortunately I am unable to answer your questions.  To be honest, I didn't really pay attention to the different churches.  I guess since my Garth's were baptized in both St. Chad's and Blackwater Unitarian during the same time frame that it simply seemed normal to me :)
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Re: Is Sally another name for Sarah?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 14 June 19 01:45 BST (UK) »
My mother was a Sarah. She HATED being called Sally. She was determined not to have a son (me) with a name that could be changed. She did well with that except in Australia.

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Re: Is Sally another name for Sarah?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 14 June 19 01:56 BST (UK) »
My Aunt Sally (aunt by marriage) lived near Rochdale. I didn't know her name was Sarah until she died.
A sister of a great-grandma was officially Mary Ann but was apparently known as Sally; I assume it was after her aunt Sarah who had been called after her grandmother, Sarah. The 2 real Sarahs, born 1790s and 1840s were Sarah on official documents; I don't know what they were called in everyday life. They were all born in Lancashire.
"Aunt Sally" was a fairground game.
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