That would appear to be them. That all ties together in pieces and would appear to suggest that John (refer to as Jnr) was baptised at St. Mary in Lambeth on 30th Aug 1840, marries Elizabeth Willis in 1863, marries Rose Lavinia at an unknown date, and is living with his daughter Rose and son-in-law in 1911. In addition, there is a John (refer to as Snr) who marries Mary New on 19 Aug 1838 in St George's, Camberwell. There is also a John Francis living with a John Perkins on the 1991C, listed as stepson, and Mary - yet unidentified - could be connected, somehow. Lots of questions still and loads to go in search of. For now, thank you to you all and your marvelous skills
