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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #90 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:04 BST (UK) »
I don't think the CWGC buried the dead on UK soil free of charge, either before or after 1917. The families had to pay something towards the ground and the CWGC then erected the headstone. If this wasn't the case, can anyone tell me why there are at least 6 or 8 WWI servicemen buried in common graves in the Western Necropolis of Glasgow?

Perhaps this may be better directed to the CWGC who state their aims are
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The Commission's principles are:

    Each of the dead should be commemorated by name on the headstone or memorial
    Headstones and memorials should be permanent
    Headstones should be uniform
    There should be no distinction made on account of military rank, race or creed

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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #91 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:09 BST (UK) »
Memorial, this is not the same as a headstone. There are servicemen buried in pauper's graves in Glasgow whose names are on a memorial in the cemetery. When I contacted the CWGC I was told that the onus was on the families to bury the dead.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #92 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:09 BST (UK) »
ORLAFF CRYSLER

Attested with the 114th Battalion at Camp Borden on 6 Spetember 1916.

He shows on the Nominal Rolls for the 114th Battallion heading off to England in November 2016 - https://militaryandfamilyhistory.blog/2016/04/18/nominal-rolls-of-the-canadian-expeditionary-force/

His service papers are here www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=128351

His death reg, from pneumonia on 16 February 1919, at Merryflats War Hospital. Death registered in the statutory Govan death registers on SP (1919 CRYSLER, ORLAFF - Statutory registers Deaths 644/21 355). Haven't checked yet what may show re his death on the Canadian military sites or elsewhere. See below:

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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #93 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:17 BST (UK) »
Probably a victim of Spanish 'flu.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.


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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #94 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:23 BST (UK) »
ORLAFF CRYSLER



Ahhhh, I looked at this chap on CWGC  - thought to myself " This name potentially rhymes with Flier ::)" - but there was nothing on his record leapt out that he was the man buried by Walter Freer.

Certainly sounds with pneumonia as cause of death and the year 1919 , that he could have been a victim of the Spanish Influenza epidemic.

Looby :)


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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #95 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:25 BST (UK) »
Buried in the Western Necropolis Glasgow (from CWGC)
(image from a Public tree on Ancestry)

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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #96 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:27 BST (UK) »
Yes, looks to be where he was buried.

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« Reply #97 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:29 BST (UK) »
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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #98 on: Thursday 23 May 19 16:51 BST (UK) »
See also www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/666124/crysler,-/

Monica

Good work, Monica. I also had this man, but couldn't see where Freer got Gayflier from.

His wife (and mother-in-law) were First Nations - Mohawk.