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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 14 May 19 01:52 BST (UK) »
Just to add a bit more flavour...

https://blogs.kent.ac.uk/bts/2018/10/29/first-world-war-native-stories

Scroll down to Chief Clear Sky.  His name was Joseph Henry Clear-Sky a Caughnawaga (Mohawk) from Quebec and he didn't survive the war.

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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 14 May 19 10:23 BST (UK) »
Just to add a bit more flavour...

https://blogs.kent.ac.uk/bts/2018/10/29/first-world-war-native-stories

Scroll down to Chief Clear Sky.  His name was Joseph Henry Clear-Sky a Caughnawaga (Mohawk) from Quebec and he didn't survive the war.

Don

Don, Are you sure he didn't survive? I found a record of Joseph Clear Sky, born 6 December 1888, died in Los Angeles on 11 January 1942.

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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 14 May 19 11:42 BST (UK) »
This one was born 2 Nov 1887 as written by him on his Attestation. 

Perhaps Indian Affairs got it wrong.

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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 14 May 19 11:54 BST (UK) »
This one was born 2 Nov 1887 as written by him on his Attestation. 

Perhaps Indian Affairs got it wrong.

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Could be, Don. According to his Service Record, he was demobbed on 23 April 1919. There is also a record of him collaborating some time after the war with John Lame Deer on a history project.


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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 16 May 19 20:37 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this has been gone through before.

This is the Nominal Roll of the 114th Batallion taken at Camp Borden on 27 October 1916. It states that these are the men who came to England (is this the group who left for England on 31 October 1916?).

http://images.ourontario.ca/haldimandmuseums/74094/data?n=8

http://images.ourontario.ca/haldimandmuseums/73360/image/187789?n=12

I have worked through SP deaths for Lanark/Govan 1916-17 for a male aged 17-30, searching by a* b* c* etc and cross checking any enties (surprisingly, not too many) against this list. Sadly no matches  :-\ Likely other lists? The Indian contigent of the 114th Battalion was up to 500? http://contentdm.ucalgary.ca/digital/collection/cmh/id/37993

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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 16 May 19 21:26 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this has been gone through before.

This is the Nominal Roll of the 114th Batallion taken at Camp Borden on 27 October 1916. It states that these are the men who came to England (is this the group who left for England on 31 October 1916?).

http://images.ourontario.ca/haldimandmuseums/74094/data?n=8

http://images.ourontario.ca/haldimandmuseums/73360/image/187789?n=12

I have worked through SP deaths for Lanark/Govan 1916-17 for a male aged 17-30, searching by a* b* c* etc and cross checking any enties (surprisingly, not too many) against this list. Sadly no matches  :-\ Likely other lists? The Indian contigent of the 114th Battalion was up to 500? http://contentdm.ucalgary.ca/digital/collection/cmh/id/37993

Monica

Given that it is a Military Hospital - could the death have been recorded under Service Returns in the Minor Records rather than specifically Govan, Glasgow or even Lanarkshire.

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« Reply #42 on: Thursday 16 May 19 21:34 BST (UK) »
Yes, there is that too, Falkryn.

You cannot search for those online on SP as a database which is a pity (used to be able to before the major changes on the site a couple of years ago I think). Not sure if you can do this with a personal search at one of the main centres?

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« Reply #43 on: Thursday 16 May 19 21:44 BST (UK) »
This may be a more complete list of the 114th Battalion  http://data2.archives.ca/e/e444/e011092706.pdf

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Re: Gay Flier
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 16 May 19 22:11 BST (UK) »
Yes, there is that too, Falkryn.

You cannot search for those online on SP as a database which is a pity (used to be able to before the major changes on the site a couple of years ago I think). Not sure if you can do this with a personal search at one of the main centres?

Monica

Searching for males 17 to 30 died  from 1916 to 1917 without using any names or initials gives quite a few returns on the Minor records - too many to search through