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Offline lesleyhannah

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Probably an impossible request?
« on: Tuesday 16 April 19 17:26 BST (UK) »
In the 1939 register my stepfather's family are living in 189 Park Road, Liverpool 8. Stepfather's wife is Ada Jane (nee Beck). Stepfather is Felix Edward Allen, a cowkeeper/dairyman, born 24 April 1893 in Yorkshire.
What I want to know, but don't know how to find out, is the name of the family living at that address before the Allen family. We have heard stories that there was an Irish family living there - also cowkeepers - but we don't have a name. Maybe they were an earlier family. We think they came over from what is now Northern Ireland, and we are trying to link the two families.
Can anyone help - I just don't know where to begin, but thank you all in advance
Lesley

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Re: Probably an impossible request?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 April 19 17:31 BST (UK) »
You could try an address search on the 1911 census. 18 years is a fairly long gap, but yuo might hit on lucky and pick up the family you are looking for.
Crackett, Cracket, Webb, Turner, Henderson, Murray, Carr, Stavers, Thornton, Oliver, Davis, Hall, Anderson, Atknin, Austin, Bainbridge, Beach, Bullman, Charlton, Chator, Corbett, Corsall, Coxon, Davis, Dinnin, Dow, Farside, Fitton, Garden, Geddes, Gowans, Harmsworth, Hedderweek, Heron, Hedley, Hunter, Ironside, Jameson, Johnson, Laidler, Leck, Mason, Miller, Milne, Nesbitt, Newton, Parkinson, Piery, Prudow, Reay, Reed, Read, Reid, Robinson, Ruddiman, Smith, Tait, Thompson, Watson, Wilson, Youn

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Re: Probably an impossible request?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 April 19 17:41 BST (UK) »
Liverpool electoral registers show Felix and Ada there in 1929/30.
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 April 19 17:51 BST (UK) »
Here are the Becks in 1911 which would be helpful for you.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWR1-321
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Re: Probably an impossible request?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 April 19 19:31 BST (UK) »
The electoral registers has Becks at no 189 since at least 1904

This is the family there in 1901 - I suspect a connection to Agnes Beck, given the place of birth

Thomas Woof    40 - b Firbank, Westmorland. Cowkeeper and dairyman
Isabella J Woof    33 - b Seaburgh, Yorks
William Woof    7 - b Liverpool
Harold Woof    2 - b Liverpool
Hannah Haggarth    74 - mother in law, b Seaburgh
Margt A Haggarth    3 - niece, b Liverpool
Thomas J Beane    20 - servant, cowman b Ireland
Daniel McDonald    23 - servant, cowman b Burnley

RG13, 3434, 121, 5

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 April 19 19:36 BST (UK) »
Looks like Thomas is Agnes' brother!

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 April 19 19:38 BST (UK) »
Just going to post that Mabel  :)

Dorothy Agnes Beck mmn Woof 1879
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 April 19 21:33 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 16 April 19 19:31 BST (UK)
This is the family there in 1901 - I suspect a connection to Agnes Beck, given the place of birth

Thomas Woof    40 - b Firbank, Westmorland. Cowkeeper and dairyman
Isabella J Woof    33 - b Seaburgh, Yorks
William Woof    7 - b Liverpool
Harold Woof    2 - b Liverpool
Hannah Haggarth    74 - mother in law, b Seaburgh
Margt A Haggarth    3 - niece, b Liverpool
Thomas J Beane    20 - servant, cowman b Ireland
Daniel McDonald    23 - servant, cowman b Burnley

RG13, 3434, 121, 5
 

Birth registration in Ireland:
Thomas Bean 1880 Lurgan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02877/2054433.pdf
Also Thomas Beare 1881 Ballymoney
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02844/2042241.pdf
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Re: Probably an impossible request?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 20 April 19 18:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your help. Have been following up your suggestions. I'm hoping Mr Google will pick up some key words and the thread will expand. Till then I'll wait till the certs I've just ordered arrive and keep  my fingers crossed. Very grateful to you all
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