Sidney William Allen jeweller of tunbridge wells

[chempat]

Likely daughter as Hastings?

Margery  Pearl Allen  mmn   Payne
GRO Reference: 1892  J Quarter in Hastings

[Christine53]

This looks like Sydney's death :

Sydney W Payne  Allen b 1861 1 1920 Battle, Sussex 2b 79

Newspaper reports describe him as the son of the late Rev William Allen of Oxford.

Corrected as per my later post .

[chempat]

'Sydney W Payne b 1861 1 1920 Battle, Sussex 2b 79

Newspaper reports describe him as the son of the late Rev William Allen of Oxford.'

How can Sydney Payne be the son of William Allen?

[chempat]

'can you find out what her real forename is from birth/baptism records please and perhaps more detailed date of birth or baptism. '

Margaret from freeBmd

Births SeptemBer quarter 1858
Margaret Payne     Banbury   
(mmn Ballard ) from GRO.

Marriages December quarter 1855 
Amelia Caroline Ballard    Camberwell   
Frederick William Payne    Camberwell   

Payne marries again
Marriages June quarter 1862
 Mary Orsmond       Islington   
William Payne        Islington   

[Christine53]

'Sydney W Payne b 1861 1 1920 Battle, Sussex 2b 79

Newspaper reports describe him as the son of the late Rev William Allen of Oxford.'

How can Sydney Payne be the son of William Allen?

Of course he can't  A senior moment I'm afraid - I should have typed Allen , not Payne ! I will correct my post.

[Smokey807]

Thank you all for your great assistance.Quite an interesting life for Sydney. Its a shame he turned to drink and crime near the end of his life. I noted that his wife Margaret was not living with him at the time of the 1901 and 1911 census although she still gave "married" as her marital status. Also noted from her 1911 census that she reported having two children but only one still living in 1911.

To complete the story about Sydney it would have been helpful to have found the 1901 and 1911 census for him. I tied to find them  but so far no luck.

[chempat]

'To complete the story about Sydney it would have been helpful to have found the 1901 and 1911 census for him'

I gave the link to 1911 - Sydney Allen, 1861, Oxford.

[Smokey807]

Thanks Chempat - I now have the 1911 census for him

[Milliepede]

He could be under William in 1901.