Sidney William Allen jeweller of tunbridge wells

[chempat]

Think they have got his marital status wrong:

in 1911
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nlc/

[chempat]

Thomas in 1881

At 124 High St   Guildford
Piece: 777   Folio: 83
Thos. Stephenson   61
Elizabeth Stephenson   64
Waltr. Stephenson   30
George Stephenson   25
Ada Stephenson   23
Edith Stephenson   21
Helen Payne   27 
Thos. Payne   32  jeweller married son-in-law  Banbury, Oxfordshire
Nora Payne   3  grdau
Herbert Payne      grnson
Emily Edgington   20
Ellen Knight   22

[chempat]

Thomas and Margaret, siblings in same census
1871
At Wallingford  Berkshire
Piece:   1274   Folio:   81
William Payne   53
Mary Payne   42
Thomas E Payne   22  jeweller's assistant  Banbury
Margarette Payne   12   Banbury
Bertha Payne   10
Harriet Payne   5
Edith O Payne   8
Ernest O Payne   2
Kester Horder   20
Sarah Saunders   19
Martha Speard   20

[Christine53]

West Sussex Gazette 21 July 1910

Sydney William Allen , formerly a well known jeweller of Hastings and Bexhill , was charged at Bexhill on Saturday with stealing two clarinets from the Kursaal. Prisoner entered the police station to give information respecting the missing instruments and was confronted with a warrant for obtaining goods by fraud from the Duchess of Sutherland's Cripple Guild New Bond Street  ( another charge.)Instruments were recovered from the Wellington Hotel , Hastings. Prisoner committed for Trial ...

[Christine53]

A further case appears in the Dundee Courier 22 Aug 1912 , where Sydney is described as an accountant , formerly a well known jeweller at Hastings , but drink had been his ruin. He was sentenced to 9 months hard labour for stealing clothes from a hotel.

[Smokey807]

What great work- thats my man!

I now have all I need for him up to and including the 1881 census but can anyone find census records 1891 onwards for him. I dont have access to family search website.

Regarding his 1886 marriage at Wallingford Berkshire to Margaret Payne, the sister of his business partner Thomas Edward Payne -given in 1871 census as "Magarette Payne" can you find out what her real forename is from birth/baptism records please and perhaps more detailed date of birth or baptism.

Any census record for Margaret/Margarette for 1881?

Any children born to Sydney and Margaret?

Death/probate record for Sydney and Margaret?

[Christine53]

What great work- thats my man!

I now have all I need for him up to and including the 1881 census but can anyone find census records 1891 onwards for him. I dont have access to family search website.

Regarding his 1886 marriage at Wallingford Berkshire to Margaret Payne, the sister of his business partner Thomas Edward Payne -given in 1871 census as "Magarette Payne" can you find out what her real forename is from birth/baptism records please and perhaps more detailed date of birth or baptism.

Any census record for Margaret/Margarette for 1881?

Any children born to Sydney and Margaret?

Death/probate record for Sydney and Margaret?

See my reply no 8 for 1891 census and chempat's no 9 for 1911. Considering the newspaper reports it appears that he entered a difficult period in his life becaues of drin k and theft convictions.

[chempat]

'I dont have access to family search website.'

You just need to register (free) to get access.

'Any children born to Sydney and Margaret?'

Look for births with their surnames on the GRO site:

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

[chempat]

Wife Margaret in 1911 on IGI

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nlh/

Isabel Harriet Payne   Head   Female   45   Wallingford, Berkshire
Margaret Allen   Sister   Female   52   Banbury, Oxfordshire

Find the image on paying site to see if children