LLOYD family mystery - can you help please?

[drfizzlebit]

Parent's marriage:

December qtr 1899
Bedwellty Registration District     vol 11a, page 127

Lloyd,David John
Polley, Katie

Snap! Deirdre

Thank you so much!

[avm228]

Astonishingly in his US Naturalization record (Arizona, 12 Feb 1948, a previous petition having been rejected in 1910) he includes the children he left behind in Wales! Though he gets Elvet’s name wrong.

His details:

David John Lloyd b 23 October 1875 Dowlais South Wales. Retired.

Fair complexion, grey eyes, grey hair, 110lb, 5ft 4in.

Wife: Sarah (b 8 May 1875 Aberystwyth, immigrated 1881) - married 26 September 1912 at Pittsburgh, PA.

Residence: 340 S 3rd Ave, Tucson, Pima, Arizona.

Children:

Evan b 23 December 1899 Dowlais and resides there
Elfred b 13 September 1901 Dowlais and resides there [Elvet was actually born 16 Nov 1901 I think?]
John David b 25 February 1913 Cleveland Ohio, resides Jackson, Miss.

Lawful entry to the US: at Philadelphia, 8 December 1901 on the Noordland.

[Deirdre784]

WW1 draft registration card (1918) give his date of birth as 23 Oct 1875, occupation bricklayer but presently unemployed on account of sickness. Born Wales. Wife Sarah Jane Lloyd.

Description: short height, slender build, grey eyes, bald.

[drfizzlebit]

Left Liverpool 27 nov1901
D j Lloyd, 27 single Mason

SS Noordland

Arr. Philadelphia

Oh my word - I'm so excited to have this information - thanks so much

[KGarrad]

1930 US Census:

Cleveland (Districts 251-500), Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States

Lloyd, David  Head  M  54  Bricklayer  b Wales
Lloyd, Sarah  Wife  F  54  b Wales
Lloyd, John D  Son  M  17  b Ohio
Davies, Elizabeth  Mother-in-Law  F  83  b Wales

[drfizzlebit]

Astonishingly in his US Naturalization record (Arizona, 12 Feb 1948, a previous petition having been rejected in 1910) he includes the children he left behind in Wales! Though he gets Elvet’s name wrong.

His details:

David John Lloyd b 23 October 1875 Dowlais South Wales. Retired.

Fair complexion, grey eyes, grey hair, 110lb, 5ft 4in.

AVM - that's absolutely amazing!  I am absolutely bowled over by your help and this information - thank you SO much!

Wife: Sarah (b 8 May 1875 Aberystwyth, immigrated 1881) - married 26 September 1912 at Pittsburgh, PA.

Residence: 340 S 3rd Ave, Tucson, Pima, Arizona.

Children:

Evan b 23 December 1899 Dowlais and resides there
Elfred b 13 September 1901 Dowlais and resides there
John David b 25 February 1913 Cleveland Ohio, resides Jackson, Miss.

Lawful entry to the US: at Philadelphia, 8 December 1901 on the Noordland.

[avm228]

They moved around a bit - they were in El Paso, Texas* when Sarah Jane applied for her naturalization on 7 August 1941.  She gave her maiden name as Davies, birth as 18 May 1875 Llanelly, immigrated to Baltimore 9 May 1884 on the Hanoverian.

Edit: in August 1941 she was resident in El Paso but she said David was resident in Miami, Florida

There’s a photo of her attached to the record but none on David’s unfortunately.

[mckha489]

Death of son John D 2 April 1985
Los Angeles
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VG15-97J

[avm228]

The Noordland on which David emigrated left Liverpool on 27 November 1901 - so very soon indeed after Elvet’s birth on 16 November 1901 (as indexed on his death registration).