Joseph Mateer? im unsure

[mateer1987]

As the children are Eliza's grandchildren it's possible not all of them are Edwards.
Do you know any of Edward's siblings.
A Sarah Mateer had a male child in March 1909.

Was Edward's wife Catherine Mulholland, late Gillespie?

i dont know any of edwards siblings as it goes. from my understanding joseph was born 1910 and there is also a john mateer born in 1912 popping up on other trees but again no records.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Court_Ward/Downing_Street/964342/

yes edwards wife was catherine mulholland/gillespie.

but catherine died before joseph was born and have been unable to find any record for his birth whatsover. only record is on 1911 census

[Kiltaglassan]

For reference-

Catherine Mateer died in 1902.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05681/4600957.pdf

KG

[Sinann]

As the children are Eliza's grandchildren it's possible not all of them are Edwards.
Do you know any of Edward's siblings.
A Sarah Mateer had a male child in March 1909.

Was Edward's wife Catherine Mulholland, late Gillespie?

i dont know any of edwards siblings as it goes. from my understanding joseph was born 1910 and there is also a john mateer born in 1912 popping up on other trees but again no records.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Court_Ward/Downing_Street/964342/

yes edwards wife was catherine mulholland/gillespie.

but catherine died before joseph was born and have been unable to find any record for his birth whatsover. only record is on 1911 census

Is the 19 year old Edward in 1911 from his father's first marriage? Both Edward and Catherine were widowed at the time they married.

I see Edward's father was Frances and his mother from the Census is Elizabeth so do you know if they had other children?

This is the Unknown to Sarah Mateer, granted he would have been just gone 2 by 1911 Census.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01627/1651330.pdf

[mateer1987]

As the children are Eliza's grandchildren it's possible not all of them are Edwards.
Do you know any of Edward's siblings.
A Sarah Mateer had a male child in March 1909.

Was Edward's wife Catherine Mulholland, late Gillespie?

i dont know any of edwards siblings as it goes. from my understanding joseph was born 1910 and there is also a john mateer born in 1912 popping up on other trees but again no records.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Court_Ward/Downing_Street/964342/

yes edwards wife was catherine mulholland/gillespie.

but catherine died before joseph was born and have been unable to find any record for his birth whatsover. only record is on 1911 census

Is the 19 year old Edward in 1911 from his father's first marriage? Both Edward and Catherine were widowed at the time they married.

I see Edward's father was Frances and his mother from the Census is Elizabeth so do you know if they had other children?

This is the Unknown to Sarah Mateer, granted he would have been just gone 2 by 1911 Census.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01627/1651330.pdf

I think i must be going mad because i cannot see sarah on document attached lol.

edward has 2 siblings that i have come across so far:

Hugh (born 1871)
francis (b: 1869 d:1939)

i wondered myself where 19 edward come from as he is listed as son of elizabeth also.

also on various trees john and joseph have been listed with mother as annie o’rielly or annie molyneaux. (just noticed that when looking back through trees again)

[Kiltaglassan]

I think i must be going mad because i cannot see sarah on document attached lol.

4th entry down, Sarah Mateer in column 6 (maiden surname of mother).

KG

[Sinann]

I think the grand added by the enumerator refers to Edward even though it's mostly on Frank's line.

[mateer1987]

ive been looking for a marriage record for joseph and mary ellen martin but havent had much luck with finding it. was hoping that might be able to shed some light but like i say havent come across it

[Kiltaglassan]

ive been looking for a marriage record for joseph and mary ellen martin but havent had much luck with finding it. was hoping that might be able to shed some light but like i say havent come across it

This may the marriage in 1931.

M/1931/B1/464/39/172   Joseph Mateer       Mary Martin        15th July 1931       Belfast

The civil marriage record for Joseph Mateer and Mary Martin is available via GRONI online at the following link, and choosing the "full" option (5 credits £2.50) lets you see the digitised image of the original:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

KG

[mateer1987]

ive been looking for a marriage record for joseph and mary ellen martin but havent had much luck with finding it. was hoping that might be able to shed some light but like i say havent come across it

This may the marriage in 1931.

M/1931/B1/464/39/172   Joseph Mateer       Mary Martin        15th July 1931       Belfast

The civil marriage record for Joseph Mateer and Mary Martin is available via GRONI online at the following link, and choosing the "full" option (5 credits £2.50) lets you see the digitised image of the original:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

KG

thank you for that, clears up that his father is definately edward mateer, tried various spellings of my surname and still not able to find birth record.

witness on marriage certificate is a john mateer also