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Offline joancrellen

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I have searched long and hard for some info on my great grandfather Henry Powell. From Marriage record, 1881 Census and death record, he was born 1857, either Walsall or Birmingham. His marriage record, 1879, has his father as Henry, deceased.  I cannot find him on the 1871 Census although Family Search has a possible person as a scholar, inmate, aged 13.  I assume this is for a workhouse.
Can anyone find that record and possibly help with my dilemma, please?
Many thanks,  Joan

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Re: Look up Henry Powell, b 1857. Possibly in the workhouse on 1871 Census. Birm'ham
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 March 19 00:44 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked the 1861 for Henry Powell b 1858 Birmingham - shown as nephew.  Mother Mary Powell widow

RG9 Piece 2137 Folio 79 Page 19

EDIT

Think she married Thomas Powell in Herefordshire 1854 - maiden name James
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Re: Look up Henry Powell, b 1857. Possibly in the workhouse on 1871 Census. Birm'ham
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 March 19 00:50 GMT (UK) »
Look at the 1861 for Henry Powell b 1821 Ludlow Shropshire (Salop).  Any occupation for Henry snr  shown on the 1879 marriage cert?

RG9 Piece 2152 Folio 96 Page 2
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Re: Look up Henry Powell, b 1857. Possibly in the workhouse on 1871 Census. Birm'ham
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 March 19 00:56 GMT (UK) »
Did he die in Cockermouth in 1888 aged 31?

If so, the only census after his marriage is the 1881 in Cockermouth, showing him as born c1857 Walsall.  Where are you getting Birmingham as an alternative birthplace?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Look up Henry Powell, b 1857. Possibly in the workhouse on 1871 Census. Birm'ham
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 March 19 23:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks CaroleW and avm228 for your replies.
He is not the one whose dad was born Ludlow. That Henry married in 1888 and my Henry married in 1879
Yes my Henry did die in Cumberland in 1888. The reason I said possibly born Birmingham, even though he said Walsall on the '81 Census, was that on the marriage record his dad is named as a silversmith, Birmingham being a centre for silversmiths.
I have tried following the one who is a nephew as you say, with mother's maiden name James , but cannot find a birth to fit nor can I find them later on.
I've also cosidered he may have been illegitimate - possibly son of Eliza powell.  He is a grandson on the '71 Census with his grandad John.
My other thought was possibly the son of Henry and Jane (nee Wood), but would then be John Henry.  They are on the '61 C and dad is a brass caster. [RG9/2174  Fol 74 Page 22  Sch. 116 ]
Jane is a widow on the '71C but John Henry isn't there. The Henry listed, aged 9 was born 1861
 
The difficulty is, even if one of the aforementioned is him, I can't find him on the '71C unless he was Eliza's son.