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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 09:20 GMT (UK) »
Out of interest, do you know who William Wright's father is.  You show he was born 1 January 1865.  I'm desperately trying to find the parents of my g.grandfather George William Wright who seem equally mysterious with no birth certificate available.  I was interested in the fact that you show that Douglas Arthur Wright was a British subject by parentage, even though he was born in London.  Does that mean, perhaps, that his parents were not originally British?

I wonder if there is a link between Douglas Arthur Wright's father and my grandfather.  I have done an Ancestry DNA but there are so many matches, I don't know if I have a match with you or not.  If you want to PM me your Ancestry name, then I can check.

They’ve no doubt entered “British subject by parentage” for the whole household in error, not having understood that the column was only relevant to those born overseas.

Quite a common error in 1911, which was the first census to ask for this information.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Out of interest, do you know who William Wright's father is.  You show he was born 1 January 1865.  I'm desperately trying to find the parents of my g.grandfather George William Wright who seem equally mysterious with no birth certificate available.  I was interested in the fact that you show that Douglas Arthur Wright was a British subject by parentage, even though he was born in London.  Does that mean, perhaps, that his parents were not originally British?

I wonder if there is a link between Douglas Arthur Wright's father and my grandfather.  I have done an Ancestry DNA but there are so many matches, I don't know if I have a match with you or not.  If you want to PM me your Ancestry name, then I can check.

Hello, I will PM you my Ancestry link.

The parents of William Wright was James Wright and Jane Higgins.

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you CM.  Got the links and sent you a PM reply.

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 10:37 GMT (UK) »
..... in 1939 there is a marriage registered in London of someone named "Douglas Arthur Reginald Wright", marrying "Lenora Joan Ellis". Douglas has his D.O.B down as 1st of May 1904, not the 1908 that I have on previous records.

It is already established that the date and place were incorrect, and he also would not have given a date of birth on the marriage certificate, so where do you see "his D.O.B down as 1st of May 1904"?

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 10:55 GMT (UK) »
..... in 1939 there is a marriage registered in London of someone named "Douglas Arthur Reginald Wright", marrying "Lenora Joan Ellis". Douglas has his D.O.B down as 1st of May 1904, not the 1908 that I have on previous records.

It is already established that the date and place were incorrect, and he also would not have given a date of birth on the marriage certificate, so where do you see "his D.O.B down as 1st of May 1904"?

Debra  :)

His 1904 DOB comes from information from the DNA match and the info on the Marriage Cert. The marriage cert is 1936 and states Douglas Arthur Reginald Wrights age is 32, says he is a "Glazier" and their residence was 23 Reigate Road, Worthing.

The 1904 DOB also comes from his War Records; image here:

https://i.imgur.com/6m5zUan.png
https://i.imgur.com/vl3Uyd2.jpg

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 11:01 GMT (UK) »
Douglas Wright (45) Lenora (44) and their 12 yr old daughter emigrated to Canada on the Scythia, which departed Southampton bound for Quebec on 31 May 1951.

Last address in the UK: 23 Reigate Rd, West Worthing.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps he simply inflated his age when he met and married Lenora (and sustained the lie thereafter), so that it appeared he was older than her?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 11:04 GMT (UK) »
Douglas Wright (45) Lenora (44) and their 12 yr old daughter emigrated to Canada on the Scythia, which departed Southampton bound for Quebec on 31 May 1951.

Last address in the UK: 23 Reigate Rd, West Worthing.

Thankyou, I will pass that info onto his grandson as he was very interested in when they went to Canada. Is there a document showing it?

Also, do you think the reason I can't find the birth certificate is because he might have had a different surname at birth for some reason, or is it possible there never was a birth cert?

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Yes I think one possibility is that Arthur was not born to William and Emma, but was perhaps a grandchild, illegitimate or otherwise.  Have you accounted for all their children?

Alternatively they might just have been one of those families which was not consistently compliant with registration requirements.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)