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Douglas Arthur Wright
« on: Tuesday 12 March 19 08:06 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I have a specific person request that doesn't fit into any of my old threads, and I don't want to dig them up so I'm requesting information here.

I am looking for information on "Douglas Arthur Wright", or maybe "Arthur Douglas Wright".
This is everything I know:

My earliest mention of this person is the 1911 English census;
"Arthur Douglas Wright: Son: 2 years old, London Hackney Wick, British Subject by Parentage"

Father: William Wright: 1st of Jan 1865
Mother: Emma Wright (nee Farr): 26 Feb 1871

Arthur being 2 years old puts his birth year at around 1908, remember this.

My next mention of Arthur comes from a Workhouse Record, but the name is recorded as "Douglas Arthur Wright", not "Arthur Douglas", with the admission form stating his birth date is 1st of May, 1908. This matches up with Census birth year, and it's confirmed as the same person because the admission form has his mother as Emma Wright. The years he is in the Workhouse is 1914 and 1915, all with the same birth year.

I then "lose" all track of this person, but in 1939 there is a marriage registered in London of someone named "Douglas Arthur Reginald Wright", marrying "Lenora Joan Ellis". Douglas has his D.O.B down as 1st of May 1904, not the 1908 that I have on previous records. The marriage certificate has his father as Douglas Frederick Wright, a Soldier . This Douglas Wright fought in WWII and had a child "Patricia J Wright (1938 - 1991), before moving to Canada in the 1950s. I can't find any record of their travel to Canada, but how do I know about it?

Here's the thing; I took an Ancestry DNA test and I share 148cm of DNA with Patricias son. Her son is adamant that his grandfather was born in 1904 and not 1908 because all of the war records for his grandfather state the earlier year. I have nothing to link my "Arthur Douglas Wright" to this "Douglas Arthur Reginald Wright" apart from the DNA link with this person.

Can you help me find the birth certificate? I cannot find it at all, I have looked very hard and can not seem to find any records of it on GRO. My DNA relation also cannot find any record of his Wright's Birth Certificate either. If his grandfather moved to Canada, there must be a Birth Certificate somewhere.

Please help me link these two people, I can provide what info I can to help.

edit: thanks Mckha489 for all you've helped me with already.


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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 08:41 GMT (UK) »
I then "lose" all track of this person, but in 1939 there is a marriage registered in London of someone named "Douglas Arthur Reginald Wright", marrying "Lenora Joan Ellis". Douglas has his D.O.B down as 1st of May 1904, not the 1908 that I have on previous records. The marriage certificate has his father as Douglas Frederick Wright, a Soldier . This Douglas Wright fought in WWII and had a child "Patricia J Wright (1938 - 1991), before moving to Canada in the 1950s. I can't find any record of their travel to Canada, but how do I know about it?

The marriage between Douglas A R Wright and Lenora Joan Ellis took place in Worthing, Sussex, 1936.
What was Douglas’s occupation on the marriage record?
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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 08:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi again CM, just posting the links to those other threads, as already Heywood is asking a question previously covered


https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806155.msg6667210


If only I could find the other more pertinent  one

Here it is

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806150.msg6664696#msg6664696

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi again CM, just posting the links to those other threads, as already Heywood is asking a question previously covered


https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806155.msg6667210
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806155.0

I was just pointing out that your date and place of marriage were wrong.

I then just wanted to clarify that I had the right person in 1939.
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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 09:00 GMT (UK) »
Quote
Got this as a reply to the Arthur Douglas Wright lead on ancestry that I am DNA related to:

"I have found a copy of the Marriage cert. between Doug & Lenora, the name of Dougs father is listed as Douglas Fredrick Wright...his profession is listed as Soldier, the date is 1930"

"Also marriage certificate states Doug's name as
Douglas Arthur Reginald Wright, age 32"

"we just found his War Service book... it lists his DOB, May 1 1904"


I mentioned that the ages and dates lined up, mentioning I found the 1936 record on GRO, then they replied

"yes, you're right ! the dates have been altered on the cert. it looks like they were erased and writen in again"0

Modified to add, this was the information re the marriage already posted in a previous thread, (to save you looking through all the pages.  :)

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 09:08 GMT (UK) »
Just for information as I don’t quite understand the previous post.

Douglas Arthur Wright 15 yrs 6 months joined Royal Tank Corps 15th November 1923 in London.
Place of birth given as Homerton and his trade on enlistment was a Musician.
This might be the 1908 one.
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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 09:10 GMT (UK) »
I’ve added an (I hope) explanatory note to my post #4

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Out of interest, do you know who William Wright's father is.  You show he was born 1 January 1865.  I'm desperately trying to find the parents of my g.grandfather George William Wright who seem equally mysterious with no birth certificate available.  I was interested in the fact that you show that Douglas Arthur Wright was a British subject by parentage, even though he was born in London.  Does that mean, perhaps, that his parents were not originally British?

I wonder if there is a link between Douglas Arthur Wright's father and my grandfather.  I have done an Ancestry DNA but there are so many matches, I don't know if I have a match with you or not.  If you want to PM me your Ancestry name, then I can check.

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Re: Douglas Arthur Wright
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 09:16 GMT (UK) »
I’ve added an (I hope) explanatory note to my post #4

I don’t think youprovided the right link - I couldn’t see anything relevant on the ones you posted.
I think this is the one you meant

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806150.msg6652669#msg6652669

Added looks like you have now  :)

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