help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow

[Annette7]

 

However, re Annette’s post indicating FD had been married before, well the MC puts her down as spinster at the age of 22......🤔

?? - I never said FD had been married before???    All I said was that Charles Kemp on 1911 in Devon stated he was single and yet when he married Fanny in Scotland 1914 - just 3 years later - he stated he was a widower.

Annette

[olives]

ah, many apologies, Annette.  I'd misread Annie's post re Frances's marriage.  My memory is obviously nothing as sharp as all you experts on here.  Don't know how you don't lose yourselves in all this.  I have to keep trawling back to retain all the info.  And I'm not THAT old! Ha.

[loobylooayr]

Hiya,

RE- Frances Dorothy's birthdate - her 1987 Death registration gives the date as 15th July 1917.
Your earlier info from daughters was 2nd Jul 1917.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVZW-39Z7

Splitting hairs  - bur worth bearing in mind for future should any probable births be found.

Hope you get your mystery solved, Olives

Looby

[ecksdochter]

     Likely not make any difference to your search, but Frances' address on the 1939 Register is 10 Lockington Ave., not Warleigh Ave. Four people are listed at this address, 1.Charles R. Mason. 2.Elizabeth B. Mason. 3.(Record officially closed), and 4.Frances D. Kemp/Jenkin. **Born 15/7/1917**  Frances' occupation is listed as Domestic Service, but that doesn't automatically mean she is employed by the Mason family.
     Good Luck with your search.
          Regards,     Dod.

[olives]

Thanks, Looby. I’ve just checked with one of the daughters and she now says that that is the correct date after all - and not 2/7/17.....🙄

Dod: thanks for the info about the Plymouth address. Even more to ponder on and research......

[Rosinish]

Charles Kemp, 37, Boilermans Labourer, widower(?) son of James Kemp, fisherman and Eliza nee Holden, married Fanny Holdroff 32 (? definitely not), single, dau. of Charles Holdroff, Warrant Officer, R.N. deceased and Sarah Holdroff, previously Tong, nee Sedgewood (or similar) married 7/5/1914 Pollokshields, Glasgow.

I think Frances was married twice from the info. Annette posted, I wonder if she had any other family?

Apologies, I somehow missed mother Sarah's name in that sentence (at the time) i.e. it makes more sense now as I couldn't fathom what exactly was meant, Frances having stated she was single yet all those surnames 

Just out of curiosity, I looked at Pollockshields (where they married) for a Frances (incase they kept her original forename albeit a coincidence with Fanny's name if so) & there were 3 but one had me wondering...

DONNELLY FRANCES (1917) 644/18 376 Pollokshields

How strange Donnelly as opposed to Dorothy!

I didn't find a death in Scotland which would fit but she could have been anywhere.

Annie

[Annette7]

'DONNELLY FRANCES (1917) 644/18 376 Pollokshields'

Already checked this one - born 16th June to a James Donnelly and Mary Ann Donohue married 1914.

Annette

[Rosinish]

Annette, it's difficult not to get too interested/intrigued isn't it, if anything can be a possible help for future 

The Frances Donnelly was a peculiar one given the initials!

I think I have an added interest as I descend from a Kemp 

Annie

Add...I also descend from a Donohue (many variants) who was the husband of the daughter of the Kemp mother although married i.e. Donohue's wife was Lunn 

[Rosinish]

ah, many apologies, Annette.  I'd misread Annie's post re Frances's marriage.  My memory is obviously nothing as sharp as all you experts on here.  Don't know how you don't lose yourselves in all this.  I have to keep trawling back to retain all the info.  And I'm not THAT old! Ha.

I'm the one to blame! & I sincerely apologise as it does get confusing & my memory isn't great i.e. have to scroll back & forth too & yes, that's what happens, I get lost & err (frequently) as I sometimes interpret things wrongly especially when speed reading! 

Annie