help needed please regarding a Frances Dorothy Kemp born in Glasgow

[olives]

Thanks Jc26red. Just spoken to the daughter again and apparently her sister was told by the archives place in Glasgow, that in 1917, as there was poor tenements in Glasgow in those days, a lot of children were just taken in by other families - or even sold😳

We should soon have more info if they can find the marriage certificate, or they’ll obtain one if not. I’ll suggest a dna to them.

[Rosinish]

2 births Glasgow area for 'a' Frances Dorothy 1914 - 1920 but both can be discounted 

HERBERTSON DOROTHY FRANCES 1915
644/12 112 Hillhead (married 1943 in Scotland)

MATTHEWS DOROTHY FRANCES 1915
644/9 667 Milton
(no marriage found but looks to have died Edinburgh 1993 although age out a tad)

Annie

[Rosinish]

Note he has 2 possible daughters who could have given birth in 1917 or even a girlfriend of the son, might be worth checking if the son died in WW1...

There's only 1 birth for 'a' Dorothy Frances in Scotland 1917;

LAING DOROTHY FRANCES 1917
431/ 16 Forgan (Fife)

No Frances Dorothy but the above can be discounted as she died 1981 Aberdeen.

15 Births of 'a' Frances Dorothy 1915 - 1919

None with surname Kemp

Annie

[olives]

Yeah, don’t think they’re any connection. Thanks Annie😃

[olives]

We now have the marriage certificate.

When the marriage took place on 2/7/1940 between Frances Dorothy Kemp and Charles Frederick Percival Jenkin - in Devenport - it’s listed as frances’s Dad (Charles Kemp) being a labourer at H.M.D Plymouth. . *** Her residence was 94 Warleigh Avenue. Spinster. No rank or profession given for her (although in 1939 it was said that she was a domestic servant).

The witnesses were a Arthur R Jenkin and a Caroline Edith Jerkin

*** it has been said that her father (Charles Kemp) emigrated to Canada in 1920 and then on to USA. Don’t know when he returned to the uk.

[IMBER]

"it’s listed as frances’s Dad (Charles Kemp) being a labourer at H.M.D Plymouth"

In case you don't know that's Her Majesty's Dockyard, Plymouth (i.e. Devonport).

Imber

[jc26red]

*** it has been said that her father (Charles Kemp) emigrated to Canada in 1920 and then on to USA. Don’t know when he returned to the uk......

is this information from your friend or my previous post

The Charles Kemp mentioned in the last post, emigrated to Canada in 1920, one of his daughters, Henrietta, was already there.

There is also a later boarder crossing in 1931. Between USA and Canada.  He lists a mrs Henrietta Ewing on the boarder crossing card

If Frances stated her father worked at HMD Devonport in 1940, then he must have returned previous to this and likely to be on the 1939 register.

[MonicaL]

Would the Charles Kemp we have been discussing in Glasgow be working as a labourer at H.M.D Plymouth at the age of nearly 72 in 1940 

Monica

[olives]

Monica: unless that was the last known profession of Charles Kemp maybe?

I’m struggling to think of a reason why they chose to move to Devon from Glasgow - and when? Perhaps someone in the family was pregnant & they wanted to start afresh where no one would know......