Adoption Register

[Flemming]

A further entry on the NRS website.

'...exceptionally, and on application to the court that originally dealt with the adoption, a person other than the adoptee may be allowed to inspect the adoption process. This is very rare and is usually only granted for reasons such as medical grounds.'

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/adoption-records

[Rosinish]

Hi,
      I was trying to get his birth certificate to see who his mother was, on the adopted children register  for him it says "under name and surname, occupation and address of adopter or adopters" his mother is Anderson as confirmed by Rosinish (thank you) but she is not his mother and I know this because I am in contact with his daughter who confirms the unusual circumstances of her fathers life, adopted by his grandparents

The surname on the death is the maiden surname of his 'adopted' mother which one would expect.

You need to order the birth I mentioned as his surname is still Pollock on his death as it was when he was registered, being illegitimate i.e. his surname hasn't changed from what you say being adopted by his g/parents.

Annie

Add...I have a more recent birth for an illegitimate child who was adopted out (stated on the original birth cert.) with only his mother's name & details showing i.e. no name(s) for the adoptive parents.

I'm unsure if his birth would have been re-registered after adoption but Forfarian may know?

[Forfarian]

I'm unsure if his birth would have been re-registered after adoption but Forfarian may know?

Adopted children are listed in the in-house birth indexes - you can tell them because the registration district shows as NRH - but they don't seem to be in the online indexes.

I have viewed a few of these records of adopted children in the Scotland's People Centre. These tell you the names, address and occupation of the adoptive parents, and the child's adoptive name and date of birth, and all the ones I have seen have given the country of birth as Scotland.

So I suppose that these adoption certificates are in effect a re-registration of the births.

[Rosinish]

Thanks Forfarian!...

I had a feeling a re-registration would occur but wasn't sure.

However, I'm very surprised the re-reg ones are viewable in-house but good info. for myself & others to know indeed!

Annie

[carolineasb]

When an Adoption is granted in Scotland, the Court sends the appropriate documents to the Registrar for them to docquet the original entry with the stamp "Adopted" and for the new Birth Registration to be processed. I was unaware that the re-registration was viewable by just anyone .

There are occasions that, if the adopted person is now deceased, the son or daughter of that person can apply/write to their nearest Sheriff Court in Scotland with their reasons for so doing to ask that a Sheriff may consider them being allowed to see the Adoption Court Process. Then it is a matter for the Sheriff and he or she may stipulate what identification that they require. It may not be allowed.

I have an instance in my own family of a child being formally adopted by his Grandparents and yet another illegitimate child was adopted outwith the family.

[Forfarian]

I was unaware that the re-registration was viewable by just anyone .

They are only viewable in-house, and subject to the same rules as births less than 100 years ago. And they don't tell you anything at all about the child's biological parents.

[Rosinish]

Not trying to muddy the waters, may be just a coincidence...

Adoptive mother/g mother was named Sarah i.e. could this death be of significance?

POLLOCK SARAH REAY 19
1932
651/ 137
Airdrie or New Monkland

Annie

[bravaal]

Hi
    Bringing this thread up to date. I phoned the adoption services in Edinburgh and was told J Pollock was processed through Airdrie Sheriff court. I then e-mailed them with the information I was seeking and the clerk e-mailed back saying he would put my request to the Sheriff after I answered some questions he had.
   They came back with;   Access to records can only be granted to the adoptee’s daughter; or to yourself with the written consent of the aforesaid daughter. Please note that ID will be required from the daughter if she writes in giving you consent.
     She is emailing them today but I do not see a problem, the whole process took less than a day with the court replies almost immediately.
   

[Rosinish]

POLLOCK SARAH REAY 19
1932
651/ 137
Airdrie or New Monkland

Not sure if you missed this but what I was wondering was, could this have been James' mother with same forename as his adoption mother/g mother?

Annie