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Re: Adoption Register
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 14:35 GMT (UK) »
 Hi,
      I was trying to get his birth certificate to see who his mother was, on the adopted children register  for him it says "under name and surname, occupation and address of adopter or adopters" his mother is Anderson as confirmed by Rosinish (thank you) but she is not his mother and I know this because I am in contact with his daughter who confirms the unusual circumstances of her fathers life, adopted by his grandparents
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Re: Adoption Register
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 14:44 GMT (UK) »
So are you trying to narrow down which of the four births for James POLLOCK is the right one before you order the certificate?

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 15:50 GMT (UK) »
 Hi Flemming,
                   I don't think he is one of the four listed and also that the date of adoption is not his birth date either.
 Will try some other routes many thanks to all rootschatter's for all your help.
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Re: Adoption Register
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 16:17 GMT (UK) »
I think the penny may have dropped with me, but I could be wrong! Are you saying that a death certificate for James would allow you (or next of kin) to source the adoption file so you can find out who his mother was?

Do you know whether or not the death record posted by Rosinish is the right one? 


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Re: Adoption Register
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 16:35 GMT (UK) »
I think the penny may have dropped with me, but I could be wrong! Are you saying that a death certificate for James would allow you (or next of kin) to source the adoption file so you can find out who his mother was?
No, that is not the case. No-one is allowed to access adoption files except the adopted person or their suitably accredited representative.

However if he died recently enough, his date of birth should be on his death certificate.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Adoption Register
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 16:44 GMT (UK) »
 Hi,
     Yip, I would presume his birth certificate would be confidential because of adoption, but with a death certificate I might get access at his local register office which is Baillieston.
    His adopted mother was Sarah Russel Anderson, father James Pollock.

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Re: Adoption Register
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 16:52 GMT (UK) »
I think the penny may have dropped with me, but I could be wrong! Are you saying that a death certificate for James would allow you (or next of kin) to source the adoption file so you can find out who his mother was?
No, that is not the case. No-one is allowed to access adoption files except the adopted person or their suitably accredited representative.

However if he died recently enough, his date of birth should be on his death certificate.

I'm aware of that but worded the post badly. The assumption was that Bravaal (or a friend) is a direct descendent of James POLLOCK. In England/Wales, the offspring of a deceased adoptee can access the file. Is this not the case in Scotland?

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Re: Adoption Register
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 17:14 GMT (UK) »
In England/Wales, the offspring of a deceased adoptee can access the file. Is this not the case in Scotland?
My understanding is that it is not the case. But I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
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Re: Adoption Register
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 17:22 GMT (UK) »
In England/Wales, the offspring of a deceased adoptee can access the file. Is this not the case in Scotland?
My understanding is that it is not the case. But I'd be happy to be proved wrong.

It is possible but there are quite a few hoops to jump through - as you may need to apply to the Courts to obtain an order to allow you access

see  https://www.mygov.scot/adoption-information/