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Re: John Idle 1883 Application to Field Force
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 14:40 GMT (UK) »
Found another conviction for similar 29 May 1882 Assisting in the assault of a Detective Constable. Pleaded he had too much liquor. Fined 40s. Residents Mag.Court. This like the previous offence was before he applied to the field force.
James Jackson 1784 - 1838. Married Isabella Parke Lived at Glasson Dock/ Thurnham.
Mariner sons : Robert, James, Michael & William.
Other sons: Thomas, John & Joseph.
Daughters: Grace, Elizabeth & Mary.

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Re: John Idle 1883 Application to Field Force
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Yes! Another offence and this was just 2 months after he made the Field Force Application.

17 Aug 1883.Attempting to rescue a prisoner. Fined 10s, recoverable in default.Residents Mag.Court.

James Jackson 1784 - 1838. Married Isabella Parke Lived at Glasson Dock/ Thurnham.
Mariner sons : Robert, James, Michael & William.
Other sons: Thomas, John & Joseph.
Daughters: Grace, Elizabeth & Mary.

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Re: John Idle 1883 Application to Field Force
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 07 March 19 01:35 GMT (UK) »
From reply #12....

"born in England (about) 1862"


Could this be his birth?


Births Dec 1861   
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Idle    John Lindsey Brougham        Edmonton
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The name of "Brougham" used in 1911 caught my eye.

Minniehaha.

HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: John Idle 1883 Application to Field Force
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 07 March 19 07:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Minihaha,

Well spotted, thats John. I did get a birth his birth certificate but it didn't actually tell me anything surprising.
James Jackson 1784 - 1838. Married Isabella Parke Lived at Glasson Dock/ Thurnham.
Mariner sons : Robert, James, Michael & William.
Other sons: Thomas, John & Joseph.
Daughters: Grace, Elizabeth & Mary.

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Re: John Idle 1883 Application to Field Force
« Reply #22 on: Monday 11 March 19 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Graysj,

No luck with the photo, sorry.

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Re: John Idle 1883 Application to Field Force
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 07:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Spades,

Very many thanks for your help and efforts.

Is there anything you'd like looked up at Kew Archives?
James Jackson 1784 - 1838. Married Isabella Parke Lived at Glasson Dock/ Thurnham.
Mariner sons : Robert, James, Michael & William.
Other sons: Thomas, John & Joseph.
Daughters: Grace, Elizabeth & Mary.

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Re: John Idle 1883 Application to Field Force
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 08:38 GMT (UK) »
You're welcome.

I'll PM you.

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Re: John Idle 1883 Application to Field Force
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 09:59 GMT (UK) »
Just checking to see if John Brougham of Victoria had any "criminal form" since it is hard to change for some

Found this Ironic, A "John Brougham", a carpenter being robbed in 1915 at Ballarat by a young housebreaker he had befriended named John Mitchell (Alias Maxwell)

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/241671313?searchTerm=%22john%20brougham%22%20Larceny&searchLimits=
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: John Idle 1883 Application to Field Force
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Whiteout7,

Can you tell us more about John BROUGHAM? Was he in New Zealand, or in Australia?

Have you checked the New Zealand Police Gazettes which are available online at Archway?

It might be best if I cut your post and replies from this topic and create a new one for you on the Australia Board. That way you'll get more views. Shall I do that?

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL
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