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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #36 on: Friday 01 March 19 13:08 GMT (UK) »



Also I have a note on a  Sydney NSW  baptism in 1846 for an Ann/e Jane BROWN, infant  daughter of George & Frances.  George's occupation is  Moulder at the Foundry.  I will get my actual copy of the Early Church Record out tomorrow.

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The baptism might fit with their marriage but not sure about Frances.

George and Hannah married in St Andrew's Scots Church , Sydney in 1846.

(NSW Marriages)


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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #37 on: Friday 01 March 19 14:01 GMT (UK) »
If George and Hannah brown died in Manila Philippines (not Manilla, Australia),  then I am sure it would have been mentioned in Philippines newspapers.
Therefore does anyone have online access these old Philippines Spanish Language newspapers?
La Esperanza  -  La Estrella    -    Diario de Manila
NOTE: No English language or Tagalog language newspapers were in print in 1850 in the Philippines.

I can't find any-websites with access to these Philippines newspapers that were in print in 1850 when George and Hannah Brown died but if any RootsChat member has worldwide access to old newspapers and can find any of the above, then it might be worth searching their names in April, May, June 1850.

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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #38 on: Friday 01 March 19 14:49 GMT (UK) »
Just noting ship arrivals in Sydney from Manila in the weeks prior to the death announcements:

The Lady Peel arrived Port Philip on 21 August 1850 having departed Manila on 29th May. After discharge and reloading she moved on to Sydney but did not arrive until 7 September, a day after the first announcement. Possibly news travelled more quickly from port to port once arrived in Australia.

Symmetry arrived Sydney on 15 August having left Manila on 12th May.

The voyage time fits the gap between events in the Philippines in April and May, and announcement of the news in early September.
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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #39 on: Friday 01 March 19 23:00 GMT (UK) »
There maybe some thing here but my Spanish is zero.

Collection 9.11 - Diario de Manila - UST Heritage Collections
digitallibrary.ust.edu.ph/cdm/landingpage/collection/diariodeman

Scroll down to April 1850.


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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #40 on: Friday 01 March 19 23:14 GMT (UK) »



Also I have a note on a  Sydney NSW  baptism in 1846 for an Ann/e Jane BROWN, infant  daughter of George & Frances.  George's occupation is  Moulder at the Foundry.  I will get my actual copy of the Early Church Record out tomorrow.

JM


The baptism might fit with their marriage but not sure about Frances.

George and Hannah married in St Andrew's Scots Church , Sydney in 1846.

(NSW Marriages)


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Ann Jane, daughter of George and Frances BROWN of Cumberland Street, was born 23 August 1846 and on 20 September 1846   baptised at St Philip’s Church of England, Sydney by Rev William Cowper.  George’s rank/profession was recorded as ‘Moulder in a Foundry’. 

See also
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTCP-Q9N

and NSW BDM online index : 
Ann J BROWN, parents as George and Frances, with the Early Church Record as Volume 31A, entry at line 275 of 1846.    I confirm that Volume 31A is baptisms for Church of England. 
https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history-research/family-history-research-nsw.aspx

I cannot find any other children for that particular couple (George and Frances BROWN,)  I do have instances where my NSW Brown family have ‘Frances’ on official documents, and yet she is usually referred to as Nancy or Nan or Ann or Annie.   

I cannot find where our OP’s  George and Hannah BROWN have any connection to my own BROWN tree, but if there were a TOP TWO surnames for NSW in the 1840s,  BROWN is up there along with SMITH…

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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #41 on: Friday 01 March 19 23:17 GMT (UK) »
And newspapers ...  try this too

https://news.google.com/newspapers

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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 03 March 19 09:54 GMT (UK) »
Andy_T ........ I emailed the address you provided and received a prompt response advising that they hold no records for the1850 period.
Seems like this may be one that remains unsolved.

Thanks for your kind assistance.
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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 03 March 19 10:06 GMT (UK) »
The Library of Congress in the USA appears to have two newspapers from the Phillipines for 1850 but of course they are not online

https://www.loc.gov/newspapers/?all=true&c=150&dates=1850/1859&fa=subject:philippines

One is the "El Eco de Panay"
and
"El Porvenir de Bisayas"

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Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
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Re: PHILIPPINES DEATH of George Brown & Hannah Brown (née Woodward) 1850
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 03 March 19 10:07 GMT (UK) »
So, to summarise:

If they died in Manila, Philippines, the death cert for George  is as I gave yesterday and Shaun gave today:

GRO Overseas/Consular  Deaths 1849-1854 -  Vol 1   Page 703

This would be the same for Ann/Hannah

and can be obtained from the GRO:

Info for OP if they want to order from GRO

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#Overseas

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You could order the certificates to see if they are yours. I'm not sure what the GRO charge for sending overseas. . The charges on the site are listed here:

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#OrderingCertificates6


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